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Feb 5 2020 11:56pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ 5 Feb 2020 23:54)
Gotta admit i wasn't a fan of that one.


Yeah I doubt anyone was, alot of players stopped playing because of it from both cores.
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Quote (Cheeya @ 6 Feb 2020 06:56)
Yeah I doubt anyone was, alot of players stopped playing because of it from both cores.


I liked it. The lvls are faster which means that the time with no profs gaining is shorter while the time of getting profs is increased. Offclass casting is better for the same reason if you change the prof with low mana pool early and bigger mana pool later on. There were also people complaining that the game was too easy and you dont even need good gear.. now it helps to upgrade so the value of good gear increased alot. There are also alot more drops than in the past. People just need to put some effort into the game to be able to play properly the higher they get.

Higher lvl gear doesnt make much sense as it would take years to find it.. Just upgrade the 55 gear and it will work. Not everybody needs to reach lvl 101

This post was edited by ahs_darkhunter on Feb 6 2020 12:20am
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Quote (ahs_darkhunter @ 6 Feb 2020 00:17)
I liked it. The lvls are faster which means that the time with no profs gaining is shorter while the time of getting profs is increased. Offclass casting is better for the same reason if you change the prof with low mana pool early and bigger mana pool later on. There were also people complaining that the game was too easy and you dont even need good gear.. now it helps to upgrade so the value of good gear increased alot. There are also alot more drops than in the past. People just need to put some effort into the game to be able to play properly the higher they get.


Bolded part really means invest heavily. Effort is not the secret... creditcards or being rich already was the secret.
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Quote (Cheeya @ 6 Feb 2020 07:20)
Bolded part really means invest heavily. Effort is not the secret... creditcards or being rich already was the secret.


Well credit cards dont grow on trees as well :P
Need effort to feed them. Also a huge part of my gear came before my credit card :thumbsup:
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Feb 6 2020 12:30am
Quote (ahs_darkhunter @ 6 Feb 2020 00:23)
Well credit cards dont grow on trees as well :P
Need effort to feed them. Also a huge part of my gear came before my credit card :thumbsup:


either way you were already using godly gear before the change. As I said before, that change didnt affect those of us already using the godliest gear available. Those who quit were already only barely getting by getting to 71 as it was.
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Feb 6 2020 06:49am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 6 Feb 2020 06:36)
Increased drop rates, magic luck changes and events did not decrease player numbers at all.


- Removing well from town
- Making wells spoof
- Removing the only thing that made it fun for solo people (this has become better now)
- I haven't tried the old transmuting system, but that seemed to be fun (removed also)

All these has made a dramatic decrease in players
However I think the most dramatic thing is that the drop rate and quality of drops is just not encouraging.
Spend a week getting to level 30 as a new player, then reroll and start over since you don't find any upgrades OR invest in already found gear which is expensive.
2 weeks go by - no satisfaction nor any reason to keep going and you lose a player.

This post was edited by Utunity on Feb 6 2020 06:50am
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Quote (Utunity @ Feb 6 2020 08:49am)
- Removing well from town
- Making wells spoof
- Removing the only thing that made it fun for solo people (this has become better now)
- I haven't tried the old transmuting system, but that seemed to be fun (removed also)

All these has made a dramatic decrease in players
However I think the most dramatic thing is that the drop rate and quality of drops is just not encouraging.
Spend a week getting to level 30 as a new player, then reroll and start over since you don't find any upgrades OR invest in already found gear which is expensive.
2 weeks go by - no satisfaction nor any reason to keep going and you lose a player.


Plus all the stats added to the items that will preclude a decent drop of the absolutely needed stats, such as +str, +dex, +vit, etc

https://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=15

Way too many relatively useless stats
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Quote (Paparick @ 6 Feb 2020 13:55)
Plus all the stats added to the items that will preclude a decent drop of the absolutely needed stats, such as +str, +dex, +vit, etc

https://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=15

Way too many relatively useless stats


Yes - I don't think they should be removed, since they do have some nice effects. BUT the needed stats should be weighed much higher - for instance robes would always have either str, dex or int and then side mods to make it crazy good in rare occasions. This would be defined on some prefix and suffixes on the items. Example: [Prefix that enables quick draw] Robe of [suffix that gives dex]
will produce a robe with quickdraw and dex. But again that will never happen since that is a totally different item system.

This post was edited by Utunity on Feb 6 2020 07:12am
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Feb 6 2020 07:29am
How can this drop be useful??

Rare wild heal IV
Level Req: 5
Heals: 4 to 46
Mana Cost: 29

+3% Ice Mastery
+1% Lightning Mastery

(other than as a shriner)

This post was edited by Paparick on Feb 6 2020 07:30am
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Feb 6 2020 07:42am
Quote (Paparick @ Feb 6 2020 08:29am)
How can this drop be useful??

Rare wild heal IV
Level Req: 5
Heals: 4 to 46
Mana Cost: 29

+3% Ice Mastery
+1% Lightning Mastery

(other than as a shriner)


It shouldnt be, and if good gear dropped every time, everyones gear would be worthless


Everyone is complaining about the dumbest things. The real reason there arent new players and ppl stop playing is simply the gameplay whether you guys want to believe it or not. I've talked to alot of people who have gave the game a shot. A few of my friends, many people from bnp. Even past players who dont play much anymore,.The consensus is that the gameplay is boring. Clicking on a picture of monsters that only appear in the same 9 spots isnt very fun for most. Only some people like the simplicity of the game.

This post was edited by Pick on Feb 6 2020 07:47am
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