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Mar 6 2019 08:59am
Quote (Pick @ Mar 7 2019 03:49am)
Boys, topic of discussion is ESCAPED, not timing and how to properly fish. Ty tho back to topic of fish escaping da rod.


Use a better durabilty rod. No use using a 3 millimeter nylon line using the proper tension rod while fishing for a Swordfish.

EDIT: Basically you can look at a Tier 1 Rod with 10 Durability... it has a 33% chance of catching a Sardine compared to a 0 Durability rod of the same tier... so you have a 33% chance that the fish won't escape. The timing factor increases your odds of it NOT escaping.

Fuck I hate real life fishing, but, this should be simple.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 6 2019 09:05am
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Mar 6 2019 09:13am
Quote (Cheeya @ Mar 6 2019 04:40pm)
The only real life skill I dont have pertaining to this conversation is how to explain something to someone completely unwilling to accept that their minimal experience in a subject isnt enough. I get that you have a timeframe to respond. Guess what.. we were talking about spam clickers when this conversation started. That in and of itself SHOWS you arent even staying on track with your own argument. Spam clickers would NEVER miss that window. They may miss the flame/snags but they would hit every timeframe for response. Timing only affects your ability to accurately counter flame/snag and nothing more. It doesnt affect quality of fish. It doesnt affect chance for the fish to escape. It affects NOTHING but the counters. Stay on track or dont debate.




Because its unrelated to timing ;)

I would like to hear from more top fishers but for the almost 15 ranks Ive done there has been nothing that suggests it being actually caused by anything but RNG.


I'm really curious what other people with rank 20++ fishing are gonna say. Never talked about that with other people who've fished. Or people who somehow know how it works. It could just as easily be random.

The only thing I'm almost certain of, at least for myself, is that lag does seem to cause it to happen more often. But is it the lag itself, or something which lag causes to happen?
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Mar 6 2019 09:37am
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I'm really curious what other people with rank 20++ fishing are gonna say. Never talked about that with other people who've fished. Or people who somehow know how it works. It could just as easily be random.

The only thing I'm almost certain of, at least for myself, is that lag does seem to cause it to happen more often. But is it the lag itself, or something which lag causes to happen?


Maybe multiple actions that the server judges had consistent latency? Feels like a strange protection considering a full blow d/c will break your rod with a 100% rate...


Quote (izParagonzi @ 6 Mar 2019 08:48)
Refer to RED... thank you for pointing out what I was saying... you hit the nail on the head.
I wasn't talking about quality.


Again we are talking about escaped fish which, Ill repeat it since you seem to be comprehending extraordinarily slow today... TIMING IS UNRELATED TO ESCAPES. There have been NO reasons so far as ive seen in 15 ranks of fishing to believe successful or unsuccessful counter attempts affect the rate at which the fish escape my hook. The rods Ive used similarly show no change in escapes.

This post was edited by Cheeya on Mar 6 2019 09:37am
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ALL skilling has one negative uncontrollable undesirable effect that makes it annoying.
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What causes fish "escaped from line"? Does char lvl/magic luck improve the life/type of fish found?


Char lvl doesn’t matter. Magic luck doesn’t matter as far as anyone knows, unless MAYBE it’ll increase your chance to get rare fish?

I have rank 19 fishing. The escapes are completely random. Sometimes it’ll escape at first tick; sometimes it’ll escape when there’s only one click left (omg so annoying!). But overall it’s completely random just like ?!!??! is in glyphing.

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ALL skilling has one negative uncontrollable undesirable effect that makes it annoying.



Have you ever skilled? I don’t think Transmuting does? :unsure: Unless you count in how ungodly long each mute takes. :lol:
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Quote (Cheeya @ Mar 7 2019 04:37am)
Again we are talking about escaped fish which, Ill repeat it since you seem to be comprehending extraordinarily slow today... TIMING IS UNRELATED TO ESCAPES. There have been NO reasons so far as ive seen in 15 ranks of fishing to believe successful or unsuccessful counter attempts affect the rate at which the fish escape my hook. The rods Ive used similarly show no change in escapes.


Should have quoted my last post... I stated my explanation to ESCAPED fish better.

Quote (pwb3 @ Mar 7 2019 05:27am)
I have rank 19 fishing. The escapes are completely random. Sometimes it’ll escape at first tick; sometimes it’ll escape when there’s only one click left (omg so annoying!). But overall it’s completely random just like ?!!??! is in glyphing.


Not that I have ever achieved any fishing rank above 5, but when I did fish, the only time a fish (3) escaped me was lag, based on the 3-5+ second responding time of the message saying it "escaped".

Might be worse now though, graphic packet transfer speed is slower than before, so are the images of dropped items, and this is NOT including the text damage of monsters hitting you compared to your attack or healing text messages (basically I have seen monsters hit me or heal themselves three times before my auto attack or heal shows text message)
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Mar 6 2019 11:27am
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+179 Durability - Newly found. no fish can escape this
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Quote (pwb3 @ 6 Mar 2019 17:27)
Char lvl doesn’t matter. Magic luck doesn’t matter as far as anyone knows, unless MAYBE it’ll increase your chance to get rare fish?

I have rank 19 fishing. The escapes are completely random. Sometimes it’ll escape at first tick; sometimes it’ll escape when there’s only one click left (omg so annoying!). But overall it’s completely random just like ?!!??! is in glyphing.




Have you ever skilled? I don’t think Transmuting does? :unsure: Unless you count in how ungodly long each mute takes. :lol:


transmuting does that when you try to make an essence out of a legendary but only get a magic essence. I think thats what he meant. Or mute a magical item with a magical essence but get a blank item.

on topic:

im positive the escape is random, like the ???? in glyphing, like the essence you get in muting, like the % you get from suffusing .

:)


Quote (TTim @ 6 Mar 2019 18:27)
Another spam festival guided by iz-parafonzie



Magical angelwood fishing rod
Skill Rank Req: 60

+179 Durability - Newly found. no fish can escape this


im 100% sure there is lots of fishies escaping that rod aswell ;) ask highlevel fishers

This post was edited by sp_patl on Mar 6 2019 11:31am
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Mar 6 2019 11:50am
Quote (pwb3 @ 6 Mar 2019 10:27)
Char lvl doesn’t matter. Magic luck doesn’t matter as far as anyone knows, unless MAYBE it’ll increase your chance to get rare fish?

I have rank 19 fishing. The escapes are completely random. Sometimes it’ll escape at first tick; sometimes it’ll escape when there’s only one click left (omg so annoying!). But overall it’s completely random just like ?!!??! is in glyphing.

Have you ever skilled? I don’t think Transmuting does? :unsure: Unless you count in how ungodly long each mute takes. :lol:


The negative in muting is DEFINITELY the loss of magical rank on essence stripping... Also the time it takes to do an item and how fucking boring it is...



Quote (izParagonzi @ 6 Mar 2019 10:49)
Should have quoted my last post... I stated my explanation to ESCAPED fish better.

Not that I have ever achieved any fishing rank above 5, but when I did fish, the only time a fish (3) escaped me was lag, based on the 3-5+ second responding time of the message saying it "escaped".

Might be worse now though, graphic packet transfer speed is slower than before, so are the images of dropped items, and this is NOT including the text damage of monsters hitting you compared to your attack or healing text messages (basically I have seen monsters hit me or heal themselves three times before my auto attack or heal shows text message)


Yes and what you seem to not be understanding is your limited experience of fishing from multiple years back is both incorrect and outdated. I rarely if ever lag on LS. I still get plenty of escaped fish. THEY CANNOT BE LATENCY RELATED WITH NO LAG AND IMMEDIATE ACTIONS.

I literally cannot find another way to tell you ESCAPES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MUCH TIME GOES BY AFTER AN ACTION. I realize the thought of a random negative that you cant control is hard to wrap your mind around but thats how it works.


Quote (sp_patl @ 6 Mar 2019 11:28)
transmuting does that when you try to make an essence out of a legendary but only get a magic essence. I think thats what he meant. Or mute a magical item with a magical essence but get a blank item.

on topic:

im positive the escape is random, like the ???? in glyphing, like the essence you get in muting, like the % you get from suffusing .

:)

im 100% sure there is lots of fishies escaping that rod aswell ;) ask highlevel fishers


Thank you for sharing your experiences :)

Well thats only because its not that 267 duri T12 rod... THAT rod is auto catch. You dont even need to click and fish appear in your inventory :P

This post was edited by Cheeya on Mar 6 2019 11:54am
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Quote (Cheeya @ Mar 7 2019 06:50am)
Yes and what you seem to not be understanding is your limited experience of fishing from multiple years back is both incorrect and outdated. I rarely if ever lag on LS. I still get plenty of escaped fish. THEY CANNOT BE LATENCY RELATED WITH NO LAG AND IMMEDIATE ACTIONS.

I literally cannot find another way to tell you ESCAPES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MUCH TIME GOES BY AFTER AN ACTION. I realize the thought of a random negative that you cant control is hard to wrap your mind around but thats how it works.


There was one thing I forgot during my period moment.

Inactivity I believe results in a runaway fish or broken rod [insert first thing that pops up] :P

It is like 1% chance an Evil Presence doesn't drop an item when you kill it. I believe this is higher for normal monsters. So in retrospect, while fishing there is a X% chance that a fish will escape.

Sorry to all if it seems I was argumentative during my period moment... :evil:
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