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Feb 28 2019 08:23pm
Quote (AntTheProtagonist @ 1 Mar 2019 03:15)
Voted worst class ever... plenty of climbs on it now to have formulated an opinion. Way to grind out tons and tons of climbs get rewarded with Warlock and then with Headhunter... then after you really bust your nuts to actually get to alchemist the reward for opening that 5th door is a kick right in the sack. What a fuckin pleb ass class, cant wait for someone to reset so i can get off this aids.


cough cough bust a nut cough cough 11 HH climbs cough cough Highest amount of hh climbs for all the current alchs cough cough bust a nut cough cough

This post was edited by TTim on Feb 28 2019 08:24pm
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Feb 28 2019 08:25pm
Quote (TTim @ 28 Feb 2019 20:23)
cough cough bust a nut cough cough 11 HH climbs cough cough


Those were some grueling climbs Im sure
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Feb 28 2019 08:38pm
Quote (slushslush @ Mar 1 2019 10:31am)
Or lower the base str and dex and add it to vit/Int and he will be fine


Quote (RistVaLL @ Mar 1 2019 02:59pm)
Im with slush on this, the only change I would like to see for the class is the base stats, keep it to 5-10 dex/str and rest into vita/int.

The worst part about alchemist is that you have to start stat the first 20 points into vitality, other than that im all good with the class.


Quote (TTim @ Mar 1 2019 03:02pm)
based from its abilities, it is a tank caster. yet starting with 15 vita. doesnt seem very legit.

remove some dex. add some vita. and the class is actually fixed.. no shit. this is all there needs to be done for alchemist to be one of best characters in game.


Actually, it is fine as it is with those stats... imagine how much points we add to Alchemist vitality on Hardcore... so SC is crying because they have to spend some points on Vitality and want to change Strength / Dexterity to make their runs even faster... suck it up already.

Quote (Cheeya @ Mar 1 2019 03:04pm)
You know you might be onto something here... That was my first thoughts when I was looking at it.


Your idea is better than adjusting dex / strength. Mind you Paul has stated in the past that is NOT going to happen. I believe it was one of my older suggestions which also stated changing stats on classes.
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Feb 28 2019 08:40pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ 1 Mar 2019 03:38)
Actually, it is fine as it is with those stats... imagine how much points we add to Alchemist vitality on Hardcore... so SC is crying because they have to spend some points on Vitality and want to change Strength / Dexterity to make their runs even faster... suck it up already.



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it is not about adding vita is about it is the last class, but by far weaker than HH and Warlock.. it should be the strongest class, wich all should strive to get. now you are gettin punished to dedicate yourself to get to the last and hardest class to optain... why are you being ignorant ?

this is not a hc vs sc rant. but you try to make it so. the class is weak compared to prior class´s


for not mention that its abilities def show it is a tank caster on the papers.!

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Feb 28 2019 08:45pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 28 2019 09:38pm)
Actually, it is fine as it is with those stats... imagine how much points we add to Alchemist vitality on Hardcore... so SC is crying because they have to spend some points on Vitality and want to change Strength / Dexterity to make their runs even faster... suck it up already.



Your idea is better than adjusting dex / strength. Mind you Paul has stated in the past that is NOT going to happen. I believe it was one of my older suggestions which also stated changing stats on classes.


you add 2 much vitality on hardcore.

its a friggen joke.
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Feb 28 2019 08:54pm
Quote (TTim @ Mar 1 2019 04:23am)
cough cough bust a nut cough cough 11 HH climbs cough cough Highest amount of hh climbs for all the current alchs cough cough bust a nut cough cough


:mad: :fume:


I totally agree with Slush, if Alchemist had 30 of his dex points redistributed in vita/int, it would be as good ( or better for a lot of people ) as the rest of the classes.

But it's most likely nerfed, because that's how Paul wants it to be, it's meant to be "the worst" class, so crying is not gonna help.

Ultimately, all games are about having fun playing them so whatever makes you happy works... there doesn't have to be a single goal.
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Feb 28 2019 09:01pm
Quote (TTim @ 28 Feb 2019 20:40)
it is not about adding vita is about it is the last class, but by far weaker than HH and Warlock.. it should be the strongest class, wich all should strive to get. now you are gettin punished to dedicate yourself to get to the last and hardest class to optain... why are you being ignorant ?

this is not a hc vs sc rant. but you try to make it so. the class is weak compared to prior class´s


for not mention that its abilities def show it is a tank caster on the papers.!


Yeah this has everything to do with the final class in the game being almost on par with magician..


Example using 50int gear as props... both with have 45vit base at the end and assuming you have +20stats at start. Going to level 85 without completing quests at all you get 104 stats to allocate.

Mage base stats
60int -> +100 staff/robe + 79 stat points = 239int w/ 139 base int
20vit -> +25 stat points = 45vit

Alchemist
110int +50 robe +74 stat points = 234int /184 base int
15vit +30 stat points = 45vit


Basically you have a mage with slightly less stats but bigger mana pool and no way to kill immunes. What a great reward :D

This post was edited by Cheeya on Feb 28 2019 09:03pm
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Quote (TTim @ Mar 1 2019 03:40pm)
it is not about adding vita is about it is the last class, but by far weaker than HH and Warlock.. it should be the strongest class, wich all should strive to get. now you are gettin punished to dedicate yourself to get to the last and hardest class to optain... why are you being ignorant ?


How can I be ignorant when I point out the FACT that those quoted, wants less Strength / Dexterity and more Vitality? And basically don't want to spend points into vitality. Be honest... you want it to be stronger and you want more points in Intelligence?

My suggestions seem like shit ideas to people, the funny thing is, all the bitching against my ideas come from 90% of ignorant people that don't have an imagination... new items = more trades, also removes who has the commodity on certain items. Damn, there should be new areas, new monsters (not monster abilities), better ways to get objectives done, have solo quests, or just have Quests in a new area and remove all objectives from game.
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Quote (RistVaLL @ Mar 1 2019 03:23pm)
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After all the game is about getin up to MQ and get the reset!
If you want to explore, feel free to, but that's not what the game is about. (Exploring didnt even exist when the game came out)


If I had stayed playing SC, I would have done shit-loads of MM, what is your point exactly? I even tried solo hunting it, but did not spawn on last square.
You are right to say I haven't done one, nor would I want to when I could lose everything just for a measly amount of guild points... shit the reward could be 1,000,000 guild points and I wouldn't waste my time on it.

I explore for maps, evil presence, prof points and gear... just like any normal game.

Quote (slushslush @ Mar 1 2019 03:45pm)
you add 2 much vitality on hardcore.

its a friggen joke.


After looking at your gear (SC), you have way better gear than me, so you look down on me and think it I am a joke.
Actually you are the joke, there are people on SC that do go to 100 vitality like me, but also have better gear.

So slurpy... tip yourself down the bowl and flush while you are at it.
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Feb 28 2019 09:10pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 28 2019 10:04pm)
How can I be ignorant when I point out the FACT that those quoted, wants less Strength / Dexterity and more Vitality? And basically don't want to spend points into vitality. Be honest... you want it to be stronger and you want more points in Intelligence?

My suggestions seem like shit ideas to people, the funny thing is, all the bitching against my ideas come from 90% of ignorant people that don't have an imagination... new items = more trades, also removes who has the commodity on certain items. Damn, there should be new areas, new monsters (not monster abilities), better ways to get objectives done, have solo quests, or just have Quests in a new area and remove all objectives from game.
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If I had stayed playing SC, I would have done shit-loads of MM, what is your point exactly? I even tried solo hunting it, but did not spawn on last square.
You are right to say I haven't done one, nor would I want to when I could lose everything just for a measly amount of guild points... shit the reward could be 1,000,000 guild points and I wouldn't waste my time on it.

I explore for maps, evil presence, prof points and gear... just like any normal game.



After looking at your gear (SC), you have way better gear than me, so you look down on me and think it I am a joke.
Actually you are the joke, there are people on SC that do go to 100 vitality like me, but also have better gear.

So slurpy... tip yourself down the bowl and flush while you are at it.



u play solo which is fine to stat the life u do.

But in group im seeing people in back row with WAY to much vita.

and just SPAMMINg heals for no reason.
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Feb 28 2019 09:18pm
Quote (slushslush @ 28 Feb 2019 21:10)
u play solo which is fine to stat the life u do.

But in group im seeing people in back row with WAY to much vita.

and just SPAMMINg heals for no reason.


Ive got no problem with the overheals if the proper vit is put in. Its not like we've got multiple warlocks in every HC group... but some people do stat too much for whistle climbs.

This post was edited by Cheeya on Feb 28 2019 09:19pm
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