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Jul 17 2018 04:38pm
Quote (slushslush @ 17 Jul 2018 23:28)
Is his suggestion not for a button to turn it off or on?


Yeah, not sure what they are arguing about really as both sides prove my point. Those who need it, great, those who don't, please stop forcing this on us.


Optional: left to one's choice; not required or mandatory


Quote (Ryanrules @ 17 Jul 2018 19:24)
I solo, therefore I voted. I actually like the 2 mob max first climb, it has been some of my most productive drop wise since I've been playing.


Fair point, you have had some luck with drops on those climbs but I still don't see any argument as to why this should be forced upon players who don't need or want it? Also I doubt there is a hidden increased loot quality on that first climb but that's up to Paul if he wants to confirm or deny.


Quote (pwb3 @ 17 Jul 2018 22:01)
This.

Just join a party once, after the reset happens. It's not that hard, especially on softcore!


Except, you know, you need to pray there are others online at the same time as you or will be for the next hour because people damn sure won't wait longer than that for a group to form, who also are not in a premade group, and your real life schedule allows you to play for 1-2 hours nonstop. It's a totally unnecessary chore and again I still don't see any valid arguments as to why this shouldn't be optional. You personally feeling that doing a group climb is not that hard does not apply to everyone.


Quote (Shannon @ 17 Jul 2018 22:09)
Is this kinda like saying - Normal and Nitemare are really annoying - should skip straight to Hell? /d2 /devilsadvocate


Can't really compare d2 with LS. In d2 you get to high level and you stay there, as in LS you climb, MQ, rinse and repeat. Only the first climb for some reason is nerfed in both speed and loot chance (with EP's being set to 1 instead of 1-3)


Quote (Plaguefear @ 18 Jul 2018 00:32)
I love it, voted no, seeing as my only character is a buffcore.


The majority of players chars aren't Bufcore, so why are you against this being optional?

This post was edited by SCXiao on Jul 17 2018 04:40pm
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Jul 17 2018 05:16pm
Quote (SCXiao @ Jul 17 2018 06:38pm)
Yeah, not sure what they are arguing about really as both sides prove my point. Those who need it, great, those who don't, please stop forcing this on us.


Optional: left to one's choice; not required or mandatory




Fair point, you have had some luck with drops on those climbs but I still don't see any argument as to why this should be forced upon players who don't need or want it? Also I doubt there is a hidden increased loot quality on that first climb but that's up to Paul if he wants to confirm or deny.




Except, you know, you need to pray there are others online at the same time as you or will be for the next hour because people damn sure won't wait longer than that for a group to form, who also are not in a premade group, and your real life schedule allows you to play for 1-2 hours nonstop. It's a totally unnecessary chore and again I still don't see any valid arguments as to why this shouldn't be optional. You personally feeling that doing a group climb is not that hard does not apply to everyone.




Can't really compare d2 with LS. In d2 you get to high level and you stay there, as in LS you climb, MQ, rinse and repeat. Only the first climb for some reason is nerfed in both speed and loot chance (with EP's being set to 1 instead of 1-3)




The majority of players chars aren't Bufcore, so why are you against this being optional?



I think people either did not read what u wanted or just ignored it?
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Jul 17 2018 06:01pm
Quote (SCXiao @ Jul 18 2018 09:38am)
Yeah, not sure what they are arguing about really as both sides prove my point. Those who need it, great, those who don't, please stop forcing this on us.


Optional: left to one's choice; not required or mandatory




Fair point, you have had some luck with drops on those climbs but I still don't see any argument as to why this should be forced upon players who don't need or want it? Also I doubt there is a hidden increased loot quality on that first climb but that's up to Paul if he wants to confirm or deny.




Except, you know, you need to pray there are others online at the same time as you or will be for the next hour because people damn sure won't wait longer than that for a group to form, who also are not in a premade group, and your real life schedule allows you to play for 1-2 hours nonstop. It's a totally unnecessary chore and again I still don't see any valid arguments as to why this shouldn't be optional. You personally feeling that doing a group climb is not that hard does not apply to everyone.




Can't really compare d2 with LS. In d2 you get to high level and you stay there, as in LS you climb, MQ, rinse and repeat. Only the first climb for some reason is nerfed in both speed and loot chance (with EP's being set to 1 instead of 1-3)




The majority of players chars aren't Bufcore, so why are you against this being optional?

I was just being a jerk for lulz, it doesnt bother me regardless, i would be ok with a solo mode toggle that lets you keep these settings permanently also.
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Jul 17 2018 06:52pm
Quote (Cheeya @ Jul 17 2018 12:48pm)
So because you have crappy gear this should remain the standard so you have have one reduced difficulty climb per character per season? Rather selfish considering you have at most 16 climbs per season that it applies to.



Quite literally havent seen an HC group in weeks... sooo yeah not really that easy...



I am entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours....
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Jul 17 2018 06:54pm
Quote (Cheeya @ Jul 17 2018 12:48pm)
So because you have crappy gear this should remain the standard so you have have one reduced difficulty climb per character per season? Rather selfish considering you have at most 16 climbs per season that it applies to.



Quite literally havent seen an HC group in weeks... sooo yeah not really that easy...



I am entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours....and with this new update coming out there will be a lot of newcomers with less points and worse gear than me who will be more than happy to not have to fight stronger mobs....but yes. I’m the “selfish” one...
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Jul 17 2018 07:07pm
Quote (CARTRACK @ Jul 18 2018 11:54am)
I am entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours....and with this new update coming out there will be a lot of newcomers with less points and worse gear than me who will be more than happy to not have to fight stronger mobs....but yes. I’m the “selfish” one...


He wants it to be optional, you would be 100% unaffected.
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Jul 18 2018 02:39am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 18 Jul 2018 02:01)
I was just being a jerk for lulz, it doesnt bother me regardless, i would be ok with a solo mode toggle that lets you keep these settings permanently also.


Lol, my apologies. :)

I've made a suggestion in the past where we could toggle the range of regular mobs and EP spawns, ie the possibility to spawn 1-9 mobs and 1-9 ep's while soloing (randomized just like in a group) to provide more of a challenge to solo players, but that got downvoted pretty heavily
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Jul 18 2018 06:20am
A real answer on why I don't want it toggleable:
-too many toggles scares away new players
- the people this is for will not understand what they are toggling
- this barely affects play at all (doing a group climb is still normal, and the solo speed is negligible at best
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Jul 18 2018 06:41am
Quote (SCXiao @ 17 Jul 2018 23:38)
Yeah, not sure what they are arguing about really as both sides prove my point. Those who need it, great, those who don't, please stop forcing this on us.


Optional: left to one's choice; not required or mandatory




Fair point, you have had some luck with drops on those climbs but I still don't see any argument as to why this should be forced upon players who don't need or want it? Also I doubt there is a hidden increased loot quality on that first climb but that's up to Paul if he wants to confirm or deny.




Except, you know, you need to pray there are others online at the same time as you or will be for the next hour because people damn sure won't wait longer than that for a group to form, who also are not in a premade group, and your real life schedule allows you to play for 1-2 hours nonstop. It's a totally unnecessary chore and again I still don't see any valid arguments as to why this shouldn't be optional. You personally feeling that doing a group climb is not that hard does not apply to everyone.




Can't really compare d2 with LS. In d2 you get to high level and you stay there, as in LS you climb, MQ, rinse and repeat. Only the first climb for some reason is nerfed in both speed and loot chance (with EP's being set to 1 instead of 1-3)




The majority of players chars aren't Bufcore, so why are you against this being optional?


Sounds like to me you need a big glass of suck it the fuck up
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Jul 18 2018 09:09am
Quote (dude_927 @ 18 Jul 2018 06:20)
A real answer on why I don't want it toggleable:
-too many toggles scares away new players
- the people this is for will not understand what they are toggling
- this barely affects play at all (doing a group climb is still normal, and the solo speed is negligible at best


1. Not once have I seen too many options in the settings menu and been like "oh no, fuck this game its got too many options
2. Generally toggles are labeled for what they do and if the person flips it and suddenly gets 1 extra mob, they should be smart enough to flip it off again if they cant handle it.
3. Maybe the drop in speed isnt noticeable for someone struggling to kill mobs to start with but personally Id love the option to increase the solo mob cap. 4-5 mob cap would speed things up SO much. Sometimes I have a skiller sit in town while I do 1-15 so its faster. When you are 1 shotting mobs using multicast/multistrike, the lack of the 3rd mob is VERY noticeable.
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