Quote (richboy1991 @ 11 Jun 2016 16:05)

No its not. passing ninja is what makes this class worth while...its easier on purpose to actualy make it to WL.
And passing on this class for 15 is worth it. A ninja is more viable with weps vs this class that only can use one type 1 handed wep.
The point is to pass this class ASAP. like 1 in 4 to pass with him. Hes a real good character and people that actualy climb for next classes will pass it up in a heart beat.
Its a reward char with very useful benefits while it lasts. And you might have people like me instead of solo'n so damn much with feeder classes - - -
put a couple hundred climbs in for this class. And you can use him for EVERYTHING..trap doors/ lvl 80+/ map hunting / group climbs / solo for ur own drops.
U know people like me.

And to harmacintyre

How did it make them better? I understand what you mean but it did not drive the price...Other classes do the same thing.
Chains and plates have there value due to guardian/other classes against PHY monsters the healer HEALS magical damage taken from monsters
and guardian is the best melee / tank healer you can get. especially with salvation.

5 classes can use chain/plate.(guardian is what drives the price) ..There heavy armors for a reason.
11 classes can use robes.(does not downgrade vs other armors if you have a healer) 6 classes can use leather/scale. This will actualy make muters mute more staffs/leathers/scales.

Everything is balanced out for SOLO, group climb and the NEW class.

Quote (izParagonzi @ 16 Jun 2016 09:43)

Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 16 2016 02:43am)

OH MY FUCKING GOD... yes I used Caps with the intention of yelling.

Nice concept in using the new abilities of LS, give this like a 9/10 [WOOT TOOT AND TOOT MORE].

Basically I had/have the same idea in a sense to your idea [outside of the abilities and somewhat dumb door suggestion you made... note: not an attack on your post!!!]

This was my suggestion, it is similar to yours:

Original Thread from the start: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34602353&f=272

PLEASE NOTE: Read ALL of the comments to get an understanding of the concept [46 total (including my replies)], there were no abilities then... you never know?
You might come up with some other ideas combining your intentions and those that have been posted in 2009

EDIT: Damn... only 7 years ago something similar was suggested... I bet there were other suggestions mentioned earlier than my post that get recycled today!!!

Forgot about my counterclass character for the Alchemist... this one is most likely compatible to your suggestion [1vs1]

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34491114&f=272

Quote (sp_patl @ Jun 17 2016 07:06am)

i lold there a little rex. Ideas we already forgot :D

Quote (richboy1991 @ Jun 17 2016 08:40am)

was alot of reading so i stopped on post 1. But i do agree with alot you mentioned, but some are a little over powered but i know u can sacrifice a little for those classes.