maybe cuz game is simply badly done for starters?!
imo its not our task to get new players into the game by babysitting them. its the job of the game itself and thus its creators job!

this doesnt mean i dont help... it means that help should not be required

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What if the game was like this when it all started? Who would have helped us then? no1

heals were introduced after shrine

I miss the unicorn days :/

sorry mister obvious but that make no sense at all. ANy kind of animals can write a big wall of text and try to show he knows stuff about ls and how it works.



edit and you are so wrong.

This post was edited by TiMasse on Jan 13 2012 12:54am

and....once again we are discussing scrambled eggs .........

I think taht the game is nice for people because



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This post was edited by TiMasse on Jan 13 2012 01:34am

the game simply needs more added to it and upgraded, i like it and i only started a month or 2 ago.

my guesses as to why it lost some player base, they might not all be right but those that are im sure are answers as to why.

1) game was new, who doesn't try new games
2) diablo, if im not mistaken i believe the majority of this forum and its origin is diablo based. reason im even back on diablo and here on jsp is because of the anticipated diablo 3. people come back to diablo 2 as well as go to it (from ls) to prepare for diablo 3 and other such reasons.
3) other games yes, some big names come to mind that im sure people wanted to jump in and try.
4) fg may or may not be as easy to make (this ones a guess since i missed the chance to play previous versions of ls)

what are some changes off the top of my head that could help ls particularly to attain more committed player base?

1) more decent low end drops, yes this would make it slightly easier to attain fg(this is not a bad thing and also helps) and also decrease cost and increase availability for usable decent starter items for the new guys
2) more (you name it, in most cases more always helps, more stuff to do, more interesting things/aspects/experiance)
+ if there was more than just catacombs, i hear there use to be and always think i woulda liked to try that. not saying they gatta do it the same way, but put in atleast one if not a few more things to do other than climb 1-71 in catacombs.
such as if drops where still good after 71, giving people a reason to try to test the limits of their characters, infact make drops better as you go past 70 as well as leave the monsters getting stronger, if not even more stronger than now so that its actually hard and this rewarding at same time.
3) cut the time of climbing, it takes too long, especially with a group of new/bad players. people cant just sit on their ass for 5+ hours (infact if theres more than 1 or 2 bad players it could take 6-10 hours). now tell me wtf is a group of new players like that going to do after they have climbed for 5 hours, reaching level 55 or so, and some of their members have to leave. u think those 1 or 2 players who cant solo that difficulty yet are going to magically all set a time and resume their climb later or the next day? or find people to help them in the current state of the player base? id be pretty fking turned off to the game in a fast way if i had to play like that, being lucky if i even got to mq half the time i climbed.
*** adding to 3), if the time of climbing was decreased, there would need to be changes to the pass/fail rate, and or add a class or 2 (this is a great idea btw, more class's = fun, what about unlocking 2 class's a pass, new ones, so u can chose what u wanna play after being rewarded with mq success. on that note, make more casters so that people can play those through more of the way up the class's.
4) a ffa arena as well as a betting arena, maby even allow people to watch and place bets as well, or a betting pool type thing.
5) trading, allow people to actually trade items, they can put them in little box's n hit accept, whatever, but it would be useful.
6) imo make proficiency faster to attain, yeah some older players who had it easy might be against that, but then let me ask why you deserve level 20/30/40 whatever, which to my knowledge was a hell of alot faster, probably 3-5x faster, and us have to spend 5x more time now to catch you. so dont tell me no and that you need the handicap lol. that is all besides the point, imo they are just too slow, speed them up 2-3x would be fine. armor proficiency would be cool too.
7) better graphics ofc, and make armor look different on each class because currently it looks f'ing retarded.
8) a little boost in solo exp would be nice, and idk if loot quality is lower soloing but it should not be, i understand quantity is lower and thats proper, a group should receive quantity x # of players as is it does. but anyhow, u get my point.
9) did i mention there should be other things to do after 71?
10) lvl 65 items would be fun
11) cooler abilities as well as animations

all that being said, i still love the game as it is, imo dont change it or even all or a few of the above, it really doesnt matter to me. and im sure the developers have already thought about and or plan some of these things, not like im telling anyone anything new.

This post was edited by Silva666 on Jan 13 2012 01:50am

Its every easy to say why

cuz making fg from this game its very hard now

for example 2 year ago if you will find 30 - 40 str/ dex charm or 100 ee char you could sell it and earn some fg now if you find ~100 ee charm shrine most the time imo same with stat charms

and why economy of ls sux cuz if there will be no players who will gonna buy low - medium stat items there will be no chance to earn ez fg and no chance for ez fgno new players 1ns again economy will start sux more

now most of players playing cuz of addiction or cuz they stillthis game

theoretic his game is now more "nub" friendly cuz you can make mq on rly low items but its not rue @ 100% cuz we usually dont accept low players in our team cuz we want to make mq asap

so there is only 1 way to get more ppl to LS make them chance to earn good amount of fg -.-

we see the same thing @ d2 when after reset almost every1 play cuz chance of earning ez fg its high but after few weeks or months most of the player quit cuz its not funny any more w/o fg

economy of D2JSP based @ fg so ....



hm for me solo now its more fun then arena was b4 ;]

ofc lower exp no so big chance @ welleables / or decet drop

but still imo its funy

now with dummy we n to drive on our own so we can play using 1 hand and wath p..ns agai

but economy n to bi fixed don't know how to do it but ...

and it n to be don fast cuz when d3 will be released amount of players will reduce 1 more time dramatically and this lovely game can rip

This post was edited by WildMike on Jan 13 2012 04:01am

Viable does not mean its fun