I used to abuse it ( 2-3 times a climb)
now its gone

even tried doing it MM style
and still no go

Because you nerds thought you could outwit the game creator and just keep doing it over and over.

You guys only have yourselves to blame.

if i had a nickel for every time i got nmnm in the past two weeks, i would have no nickels
but then again, i hate nickels nickels, thus i wouldn't want to collect them for an ingame milestone
so maybe i have gotten nmnm, but i refuse to let anyone else know because i would receive nickels... or i could be lying
just kidding, i love nickels! If i were collecting nickels from ladder slasher based upon the frequency of an objective - it would be a dream come true
I would have so many nickels!!!! But wait.... how many from the past 2-3 weeks?? you may never know.... you dont even know if i like nickels or not
i may or may not like nickels, but i can assure you that i do love nmnm, but what that has to do with nickels - who knows?? I DO - YOU DON'T
My love/hatred for nickels actually has nothing to do with the occurrence of the objective no maze no more, but if it did, the nickels (in my case) would be all over the place - by all over the place, that could mean all over my home because i had collected them from getting no maze no more OR it could mean that the nickels are all over the catacombs because no one has collected said nickels from the catacombs because the objective has not spawned
Anyway, in closing, nickels are just a coin and may or may not be related to the frequency of a ladder slasher objective... just kidding - they have nothing to do with anything

No maze has been abused since its first arrival way back, and was removed in patch 1.15
It made its return to the game as a quest in 1.20, and was abused once again...

If we learned not to abuse the quests and features given to us, we may not have them taken away.... or better yet have them nerfed.....

I blame Braxton11.

Better yet, the creator should make it impossible to abuse, therefore he wouldn't need to rely on the rest of our moral dilemmas.




Simple solution I came up with, not sure how hard it is to implement, but yeah here goes.

1. Re-enable No Maze No More. Leave the requirements the same as it always has been. Possibly nerf the spawn rate or not, that would have to be observed.
2. Make it so you can only attempt it ONCE per climb. Key word is ATTEMPT. If you try and fail/leave/die, that's it, can't do it again until next climb.
3. Make it so you can not farm it. One way of doing this would be if someone who has Attempted or Completed NMNM joins your game, that group can now NOT spawn NMNM and it becomes disabled for that group.


So if you wanted to successfully do NM, you would need a group of people who have all not even attempted it that climb.


I think this would eliminate people having one person leave on the last mob, then remake, then just farm it over and over. There is a lot more that would have to be worked out, such as a possible display when someone enters the game who has done it (a simple "No Maze No More is now Disabled" would work) to let the rest know they can not do it.

Just a few thoughts, I really enjoyed this objective and I don't feel like it should be removed simply because some people were farming it like crazy. Any opinions? Also please turn the flamethrowers on medium-low.


(forgot to add this is all just an opinion)

This post was edited by jlhromeo on Mar 18 2011 04:30pm

If we start abusing sneaky, will it disappear also????
Woot!!
Let's all abuse sneaky now!!!

edit:
On a more serious not, since the best objective is gone or near imppossible to get, why bother doing them and waste time..
Let's just all run in black from level 1 and MQ in 2 hours....
Since the game maker doesn't want us to abuse the quests, let's do no quest at all

This post was edited by MotherOfTwo on Mar 18 2011 04:50pm

In order for people to not abuse it, if anyone completes it once, it should not be active anymore ( for the whole group, what ever group he goes in ) until he gets back to level 1, not sure if Paul could realise this but, its an idea

This post was edited by DOHtrader on Mar 18 2011 05:23pm

I don't blame you.



Not a very mature mother of two are we...

It has nothing to do with him realizing* anything. It has everything to do with fags not completing the quest. If he implements it so you are only able to get it once per climb, even with a disconnect, people will cry like little girls. Removal is the best choice in my opinion.

nmnm worked wonderfully the way it was.


xp wasnt gfg, and if some people are actually getting drops/making fg off ls, it seems like a STEP FORWARD, for the ls community. i think it worked fine.