Everybody knows what it means.

Your inference is just retarded.

Still have the misconception that casters are better or more useful than melee?

You can do a climb with all melee. Just make 2 of them go hybrid.

You can't do a climb with all caster.

You can't have a solid group unless there is balance.

The ratio for the weapons is just a new system to tweak with damage.

Still mad you cannot play this game from an economical standpoint and lost 100k+ value of your charm?

i think you can play with all casters, bud.

so long as atleast 1-2 are samy/pally/guard/etc that can tank also, and whats wrong with ee weps on switch for those pesky immunes?

nada.

This post was edited by Remady on Jan 18 2011 02:36am

Subjective...isn't it?

If you mean, am I under the impression that casters have it better than melee. The answer would be yes. Here are a few reasons/comparisons

gear needed to climb and reset the ladder

caster(minimum gear required)

casting swords
casting staves
casting robes
casting charms(lightning)

melee(minimum gear required)

daggers
axes
dex robes
dex charms
casting staves
casting robes
casting charm

Notice I left heals off, they aren't required technically(although they are a good idea to have). So it requires almost twice the gear if you play melee vs caster. That's reason number one that I think casters have it better than melee.

Next up, casters do more damage than their melee counterparts. When soloing, they have higher average damage with similar gear as well. In catacombs, they get more xp than melee. They don't currently have a ratio that limits their choice for gear that's rather a big deal.

I won't say melee is not useful, I believe they are. Healers are useful too, so are tankers. However, if I was making a group and I had the healer and tanker already and had the choice between a good caster and a good melee, I would choose the caster...wouldn't you? I think most groups that have a choice, would want 3 casters and 2 melee. That's a 60/40 split between what's more useful. I hope this answers your question about my "misconception"

As stated, I don't like this idea, I think it's going to happen though. I'm surprised that so many people are saying that it's a bad idea and boo, when melee got crippled they said "adapt or quit". I think this change would help ls though. Right now vitality is a useless stat(by itself) this would be a great way to make use of it and to make max mana/life gear worthwhile again.

Personally... I believe that Dexterity is the key to your suggestion.
Think about it... previously Dexterity gave CS for melee
then came about that CS added to caster dmg
Now... with Dex and Int combined, it is more ideal for casting

Forget Vita for now... Int/Dex for ratios is better in my opinion

Oh lawdi, please don't give him any more dreadful ideas than he already has D:

If they switched to melee weapons, don't you think they wouldn't be called casters then?

That be something called hybrid playing.

Be kind of counter productive to do that and be better off with balancing melee/caster as it will produce the best results.

no i dont think so..

Hybrid is with melee build, and dual and tri moded gear, nvm it can be both, you just want to argue about it?

I don't think that ratios will be the thing that is added, but casting is going to change for sure. It makes absolutely no sense that this is the final form of how casting in this game will be. The previous multi-cast system was perfect for the environment we had ( you solo'd for prof, the work payed off in cata's and was random). Now its just unbalanced, everyone is doing it and few are doing it well.

Melee gear isnt nearly as desirable as it used to be, and 75% of everyone that joins your games (feeder-ninja) are casters. Paul already stated that this portion of the update was transitional and something for us to get used to until the rest of the update came out. Casting is NOT going to stay this way and it will change when the next update comes. Anyone who feels this is how it will stay, will be the next ones posting crai/quit threads when 1.21 comes out. It just goes to show that the old quote is true "Anything that seems to good to be true, usually isn't."

Back to passing that way I don't have to be on the worst class on LS.