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Oct 21 2010 05:31pm
I am personally more of a healer hybrid.
This is my best stuff:

Might be #1 Hybrid dagger around.

Angelic diamond dagger
Level Req: 40
Damage: 141 to 247

+110% Enhanced Effect
+10% Experience Gained
+1% Physical Damage Reduction
+41% Heal Mastery

A simple robe:

Mythical spiderthread robe
Level Req: 55
Physical Defense: 0 to 16
Magical Defense: 43 to 130

+19 Vitality
+1 to 2 Life per Attack
+1 to 20 Life per Kill
+57% Heal Mastery
+1 Jubilance

My weak hybrid charm (Will be getting a better one ASAP):

Mythical fire X
Level Req: 35
Spell Damage: 49 to 132
Mana Cost: 77

+18 Dexterity
+2 Life Regen
+3% Magical Damage Reduction
+30% Heal Mastery
+1% Power Shot

And then a varitey of decent Focused heals on acc slot.
This is'nt all of my hybrid gear but its what I use for my best possible heals and melee.
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Oct 21 2010 05:35pm
Quote (xaos4ever @ Oct 21 2010 07:31pm)
I am personally more of a healer hybrid.
This is my best stuff:

Might be #1 Hybrid dagger around.

Angelic diamond dagger
Level Req: 40
Damage: 141 to 247

+110% Enhanced Effect
+10% Experience Gained
+1% Physical Damage Reduction
+41% Heal Mastery

A simple robe:

Mythical spiderthread robe
Level Req: 55
Physical Defense: 0 to 16
Magical Defense: 43 to 130

+19 Vitality
+1 to 2 Life per Attack
+1 to 20 Life per Kill
+57% Heal Mastery
+1 Jubilance

My weak hybrid charm (Will be getting a better one ASAP):

Mythical fire X
Level Req: 35
Spell Damage: 49 to 132
Mana Cost: 77

+18 Dexterity
+2 Life Regen
+3% Magical Damage Reduction
+30% Heal Mastery
+1% Power Shot

And then a varitey of decent Focused heals on acc slot.
This is'nt all of my hybrid gear but its what I use for my best possible heals and melee.


lol how can you consider that even close to being useful on a hybrid if you are doing such low damage
another example of someone who has no idea how to build a character
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Oct 21 2010 05:40pm
Quote (Boss @ Oct 21 2010 04:35pm)
lol how can you consider that even close to being useful on a hybrid if you are doing such low damage
another example of someone who has no idea how to build a character


Just to play devils advocate for a moment, he apparently has very low fg, and may just be working with the best he's got.

Before casting judgement, why not ask the reasoning behind the gear, why each piece is what it is, and as well, how does he stat his various characters and why?

Granted, I look at that gear, and I see a healer, not so much a melee. The dagger seems more focused on heal, and it does not seem to have any of the inherent balance that a good hybrid character would. Very much a healer that can do something higher than 0 damage shots. However, being too lazy to look at your character(s), I cannot judge such without knowing. :)
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Oct 21 2010 05:41pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Oct 21 2010 07:40pm)
Just to play devils advocate for a moment, he apparently has very low fg, and may just be working with the best he's got.

Before casting judgement, why not ask the reasoning behind the gear, why each piece is what it is, and as well, how does he stat his various characters and why?

Granted, I look at that gear, and I see a healer, not so much a melee. The dagger seems more focused on heal, and it does not seem to have any of the inherent balance that a good hybrid character would. Very much a healer that can do something higher than 0 damage shots. However, being too lazy to look at your character(s), I cannot judge such without knowing. :)


a 180ee 55 dagger with just a heal masstery charm is more effective than what he is using
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Oct 21 2010 05:57pm
Quote (Boss @ Oct 22 2010 11:53am)
There are hybrid chars that are effective
and there are melee chars that can heal
a lot of people confuse the two
like that trevor guy


Quote (InsaneBobb @ Oct 22 2010 12:10pm)
Truth. <3


I am sure there are plenty of "Trevors" out in the world.
If this reflects one of Kirbys guildy, then he does have a point to his view
As do we all...

When he started LS, he built an effective character that yeilded more Heal capacity than alot of newcomers
to Ladder Slasher, not only that, he ensured to make his build more beneficial by introducing more Damage BUT
ensured that his healing capacity remained on par... thus his build is Hybrid, just like a good Guardian is ment to be.

Now... you guys can take a stab at my build, I build hybrid only...
When I Solo:
My damage and heal is not poor or great, it is more than substantial

In a Group
As a MONK Healer in a Group (55+)... I average 700 Heal (making my melee damage minimal)
As a MONK Melee in a Group (55+)... I average 550 damage (making my heal average 280)
As for casting... I hardly ever do, that is because 90% of the rest of the players prefer Casting or Melee'ing (including tank characters)

Quote (xaos4ever @ Oct 22 2010 12:31pm)
I am personally more of a healer hybrid.


Quote (Boss @ Oct 22 2010 12:35pm)
lol how can you consider that even close to being useful on a hybrid if you are doing such low damage
another example of someone who has no idea how to build a character


You should learn to read before making a judgement and letting your brain takeover your fingers.
Note that I bolded the words in the quote... he was referring to being more Heal than melee...

As for his stating Hybrid, it is possibly based on Level 40 to Level 50 because of two (2) things:
1. EE on the dagger
2. Dex on the main charm

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Oct 22 2010 12:40pm)
Just to play devils advocate for a moment, he apparently has very low fg, and may just be working with the best he's got.

Before casting judgement, why not ask the reasoning behind the gear, why each piece is what it is, and as well, how does he stat his various characters and why?

Granted, I look at that gear, and I see a healer, not so much a melee. The dagger seems more focused on heal, and it does not seem to have any of the inherent balance that a good hybrid character would. Very much a healer that can do something higher than 0 damage shots. However, being too lazy to look at your character(s), I cannot judge such without knowing. :)


I would think (optimum wording) that he uses his stats to improve two areas:
1. Intelligence to ensure a substantial Mana Pool
2. Dexterity (using Dagger) to ensure more damage
... Since the update, that is all he needs to invest in to helpful in a group.

Quote (Boss @ Oct 22 2010 12:41pm)
a 180ee 55 dagger with just a heal masstery charm is more effective than what he is using


This is true, but then he does not own such an item.

Another option...
Use the Robe for HM gear and replace the Main Charm with Dual Stats... Dexterity / Intelligence... or More Dexterity / Heal Mastery (which HM is better than Int for healing)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Oct 21 2010 05:59pm
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Oct 21 2010 06:12pm
Quote (Boss @ Oct 21 2010 07:35pm)
lol how can you consider that even close to being useful on a hybrid if you are doing such low damage
another example of someone who has no idea how to build a character


I dont think anyone asked "Hey Boss, why dont you come in here and judge people".
All I ever see you doing is running people down and talking trash.

If you really want to know I use that stuff when there are no other healer's in the group and guess what?? I keep the group going until MQ.
Assuming that you know how I play my character and why I play it that way just shows your ignorance.
Here is my weapon switch if there is atleast one other healer/hybrid in the group:

Rare tintitanium dagger
Level Req: 50
Damage: 209 to 366

+163% Enhanced Effect
+2 Extra Equipment Slots


Go ahead and post your useless BS about me and my character. Then go ask anyone on softcore how I do in cata's..... Ohh and by the way Mr.Know it all, I have 22 dagger proficiency which gives a good boost in my damage.

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Oct 21 2010 06:15pm
Theese topics allways fail because people use them to show off gear insted of discussing thoughts about builds etc.
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Oct 21 2010 06:15pm
Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Oct 21 2010 09:15pm)
Theese topics allways fail because people use them to show off gear insted of discussing thoughts about builds etc.


I have yet to show my pathetic gear :CRY:
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Oct 21 2010 06:20pm
Quote (xaos4ever @ Oct 21 2010 08:12pm)
I dont think anyone asked "Hey Boss, why dont you come in here and judge people".
All I ever see you doing is running people down and talking trash.

If you really want to know I use that stuff when there are no other healer's in the group and guess what?? I keep the group going until MQ.
Assuming that you know how I play my character and why I play it that way just shows your ignorance.
Here is my weapon switch if there is atleast one other healer/hybrid in the group:

Rare tintitanium dagger
Level Req: 50
Damage: 209 to 366

+163% Enhanced Effect
+2 Extra Equipment Slots


Go ahead and post your useless BS about me and my character. Then go ask anyone on softcore how I do in cata's..... Ohh and by the way Mr.Know it all, I have 22 dagger proficiency which gives a good boost in my damage.


congrats then the 180ee dagger i suggested is now a 202 with your prof
and you claimed it was the best hybrid dagger, when it was far from the truth
im sure you do fine as a healer in catacombs tho i wont argue that
if you took the same fg you spent on that setup and built your character to its full potential you would have a much better character
take it or leave it, dont cry about it
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Oct 21 2010 06:32pm
Quote (Boss @ Oct 21 2010 08:20pm)
congrats then the 180ee dagger i suggested is now a 202 with your prof
and you claimed it was the best hybrid dagger, when it was far from the truth
im sure you do fine as a healer in catacombs tho i wont argue that
if you took the same fg you spent on that setup and built your character to its full potential you would have a much better character
take it or leave it, dont cry about it


Once again its the best hybrid dagger FOR MY PURPOSE'S. What is best for me may be trash for you.

Who is crying? How about you try asking someone if they want your opinion before opening you virtual mouth?
Or better yet, ask ANY question at all before running me or anyone for that matter down.
Who the hell wants to listen to ANYONE who is just passing judgment in a trash talking manner?

To everyone else in this thread, I am sorry. I am usually a very nice guy but all I ever see from this guy is negativity in just about every thread he posts in.
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