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Oct 11 2010 09:51pm
Quote (Stok3d @ Oct 11 2010 09:29pm)
Here is what I've found to work best: Item being dropped by weller is the wellers. The rest is free game for anyone.


that works great in theory until something awesome drops

Quote (Paparick @ Oct 11 2010 09:49pm)
Here we go with another HE SNIPED MY GEAR topic

If you want to interrupt a fast-moving cata game with your cruddy white zero xp wells, do it games where I am not playing


i think that's his point, not every game has you in it rick :P

in fact, most games do not have a paparick playing in them, so your point is moot

This post was edited by Casey on Oct 11 2010 09:53pm
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Oct 11 2010 11:32pm)
Before casting your vote, consider also that in the time that 1, just 1, well monster is done? Anywhere from one to 10 sets of regular spawns can happen. Izzy keeps going on about exp. Welling is a LOSS to exp. I sat there in one game as a good 70 wells were done. I sat through about 30 of them. That thirty took about 5 levels worth of time, and I got a total of 1 level. After being bitched at for grabbing shrinables, I waited in town until it was done. Then I left the game shortly after, because they'd wasted so much of my time that I was fed up with the group.

I'll donate my time, I'll forgo getting wellables (that were to be done in guild games) so that I can shrine to help the team, I'll do whatever I can to make a team successful, as long as the team shows the same respect.

More and more, I come to the feeling that the pool/well should only exist solo or in guild-only games. All it creates in random groups is conflict and topics like this, where one person thinks their drop(s) is of such great matter that the entire team can go eat a dick.



Which part did you not understand? I don't pick up whites. I pick up shrinables.

Your excuses as to why your team doesn't matter, and you are the only person entitled to drops from a mob that EVERYONE spent the time, health, and mana to kill? Dispicable, disgusting, embarrasing, and pathetic.

Go play Diablo. You fit in better there. :)

BTW, thank you. I was going to feel upset if I had no idiotic, self-involved "pro" to flame on my birthday. Best birthday gift EVER (aside from the bottle of topshelf vodka I'm drinking). :)


Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Oct 11 2010 11:32pm)
To be honest I think Paul moved the well to cata to make sure that people who weren't able to get anything done in the old well could get some items and therefore I strongly doubt that drops will be locked or whatever because that would pretty much defete the purpose of changing how the well works.

If 5 ppl agree on rotation thats how it should be, if you can't agree it's ffa, if that dosen't make you happy there is an option to hoard wellables and do them alone / with guild.

I think above mentioned system works awesome and nn change that.


I can see pros and cons to what everybody has mentioned in this thread, and I came to the conclusion to cast my vote as a no on this suggestion.

Cata is for team play, wells should be for the TEAM.

if a player wants the wells for him/herself, do it in a solo run or set up a guild only run, or cata with friend(s).

just my $0.02

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Oct 11 2010 10:08pm
Quote (Brainwashed @ Oct 11 2010 11:01pm)
I can see pros and cons to what everybody has mentioned in this thread, and I came to the conclusion to cast my vote as a no on this suggestion.

Cata is for team play, wells should be for the TEAM.

if a player wants the wells for him/herself, do it in a solo run or set up a guild only run, or cata with friend(s).

just my $0.02


i agree 100%......but then you're subject to hate and threats like "you're banned from future runs in <insert clan here> if you take these drops"

no one in any guild is going to take a huge item getting taken from someone else lightly (yes, there's the 2-3 percent mature people out there), but there's some serious whining out there

the way i see it: wells are free game in pub catas....if you want shared drops, do guild only or solo

This post was edited by Casey on Oct 11 2010 10:10pm
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Oct 11 2010 10:18pm
Quote (Stok3d @ 11 Oct 2010 20:29)
Here is what I've found to work best:  Item being dropped by weller is the wellers.  The rest is free game for anyone.


Nicks right i like running it like this
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Oct 11 2010 10:27pm
Quote (StealinHerHeart @ Oct 11 2010 11:18pm)
Nicks right i like running it like this


im playing devil's advocate here:

why should i respect that rule if something really good drops?
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Oct 12 2010 12:22am
There are good points and bad points to both scenarios.

The general idea for this suggestion was based around these things:

1. A new person or fairly new person with zero fg
2. The same person or other people that can not solo well @ level 55+
3. either the same person or another person not in a guild with very little knowledge or understanding

As it is, most comments have been based on what "WE" can achieve, and no real comment has been made about the above.

If a person can not well items (solo), not in a guild, has very little fg... but has many wellable items and the side drop is a level10 dagger with 55% ee / 5 dex
and one of the other team members picks it and does not need it, why shouldn't there be a safeguard... remember it can be "Toggled ON/OFF"
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Yes it is a team effort and some reward of helping should be given... and this is where my beliefs and ethics kick in...
my reward would be helping that person and in return, they do the same.

Think more on it... it would make a stronger and better community and also help newcomers to play the game
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Oct 12 2010 12:36am
If you don't like how the wells work current in public games, dont well in public games.
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Quote (Extremis @ Oct 12 2010 06:36pm)
If you don't like how the wells work current in public games, dont well in public games.


Tis what I think also.

Tis why we're in guilds right? Go well with your guild buddies if you don't trust those who you are welling with.
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Oct 12 2010 12:48am
Quote (k.iMpacT @ 12 Oct 2010 05:06)
my opinion is to just agree on it before you well items.

your items are your items. i believe that the item you throw into the well AND the side drops should be yours.

if im carrying around wellables. why should the group benefit from my efforts? and its not being selfish. its the same rules for everyone.


this



edit : its like on evil presense with drop order before update. if its your turn . and u say NN . others can grab it. but basically, its your drop.

This post was edited by sp_patl on Oct 12 2010 12:55am
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Oct 12 2010 12:50am
Voted: Other

Nothing will change about welling...
Be smart is all I can advise ;)
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