So basically your whole arguement is don't play with you since your gear sucks and you are a "rando"?

Doesn't seem very logical, if we played the same core, I personally would give you a try instead of just kicking you. How about this, we see a problem so we bring it up? In this case the drop box is a problem for us, not that drops are being taken by leechers, that can be easily solved by the /kick command. I have a problem with the drop box because it makes a simple game more complicated. I'm not interested in playing a game that has a pop up window for everything. I'm giving it a shot, trying to adapt, but more then likely, myself and a number of others aren't going to be playing this game as much, and spending much less fg on it.



My sole problem with this is the idea of getting online, and joining a community to play a fancy solitaire. When you solo, that's basically what it boils down to...solitaire. I do solo when it's necessary and I do on my mage from 1-5 then 15-71(5-15 is for quests). I solo because I'm hopefull on getting a good drop/well. I catacomb to climb the ladder and play with friends and to make new friends as well. My computer came with some fun solitaire games that don't cost me any fg.

This post was edited by HoR_Rahl on Dec 6 2009 07:03pm

sorry mate.

i seem to have a habit of this :/

no, the point i am making is - drops are for everyone, the lazy, the sneaky, and the deserving
if you cant deal with not getting a drop instead of someone who is fake afk, then you shouldn't play with strangers in the catacombs or just play solo arena
it's really not a complicated idea

the game will not change for you, change with the game or go away

Literally....

Lazy - people who are attacking not concentrating on drops ( what i should now camp ?? )
Sneaky - People who camp
Deserving - people who attack until monster is dead.

What if my gear it utter CRAP and i wanna play? but i can't get into good games.. I should play with who now, but i want good drops.

Spam stops here. Questions can be pm'd to me.



thnx for understanding

Drops are for everyone and when unscrupulous players take advantage of the situation, there is a problem.
People have been bitching about drop clickers ever since the no-maze catacomb was introduced. But there was always one constant. The items dropped at the monsters. Not any place you desire.

The reason the drop box is bad is because it requires zero effort to follow the game of ladder slasher. A person like myself who does 1,100 average damage at level 55 does not have a liberty to sit there attacking one monster every mob spawn as a guy who does 50 average damage does. These people are taking advantage of the situation with a drop box placement and reaping the benefit of every users work. Additionally, there is NO ADVANTAGEOUS placement of the drop box for a proactive user except at the BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. Any other location blocks user statics, monsters, or vital information. As a very proactive slasher, my drop box must remain on the bottom of the screen which also disadvantages me as an individual trying to be the most productive player in my group.

At least before, they had to "follow" the monsters to have a chance in hell to drop click. Now all you have to do is mindless click and suck everything up.
This is certainly a problem.

This post was edited by przy on Dec 6 2009 07:12pm

this is a suggestion topic and im discussing the suggestion, sorry, but that's not spam
regardless of how you define those people, they're all equally entitled to every drop in a catacomb game if they're in the party

as to who you should play with if your gear sucks - anyone you want to. if you cant get into games with good people, then play with people who arent good, but dont expect to get drops just because you click more often

*one more thing - i dont know if you have ever done this, but the people who have been playing softcore from day 1 and hardcore from day 1 started with nothing and had to make all of their climbs with shitty gear and we turned out alright - theres really no excuse to get bent out of shape over drops



again, this arises from your sense of entitlement to item drops - you feel like you deserve it more then someone else in the group - thats the opposite of a group mentality - perhaps you would be better off in the arena





pg2

This post was edited by cardoors32 on Dec 6 2009 07:16pm

i thought you had to attack or you can't pick up a item or am i wrong?

You are correct, but if you don't do any damage, you won't kill monsters, means you don't move your mouse, which means your customizable drop box is right next to you getting EVERYONE'S drops. Unlike the previous system, you actually have to be at the MONSTER LOCATION to gain drops.
Unlike a productive player your mouse will never be in the same location.

This post was edited by przy on Dec 6 2009 07:17pm

yeah except back then there were things that are now unspawnable that could drop

I'm betting the 6 ppl that voted "no" are leechers.

This dropbox is stupid in my opinion. Yes, I know how much my opinion matters in LS.
Along with the rest of us.

Hopefully we can make changes towards the better. As of now, I've just about given up hope.