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Nov 22 2009 06:38pm
Quote (J_B @ Nov 23 2009 01:35pm)
it's effect on a heal charm is shown in the damage it displays...
also, the (.95 + int/100) formula is 100% accurate


was that ever released / confirmed, or was it worked out by some intelligent young maths student?
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Nov 22 2009 06:38pm
Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 22 2009 07:34pm)
Isn't it? Where has njaguar released the formula for int vs charms? I don't recall ever seeing official word of its effects


Of course intelligence bonus is displayed. Add or remove intelligence, it will display.
The only time it will not display is if you put an intelligence charm in the ACCESSORY slot.

The formula of intelligence is not released, it is speculated by users, which is likely correct but never "confirmed" by the creator. Which goes back to my previous point, hidden things should not be displayed and those things should not be known or confirmed because that upholds one of the intriguing allures of ladder slasher.
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Nov 22 2009 06:42pm
Quote (przy @ Nov 23 2009 12:38pm)
Of course intelligence bonus is displayed. Add or remove intelligence, it will display.
The only time it will not display is if you put an intelligence charm in the ACCESSORY slot.

The formula of intelligence is not released, it is speculated by users, which is likely correct but never "confirmed" by the creator. Which goes back to my previous point, hidden things should not be displayed and those things should not be known or confirmed because that upholds one of the intriguing allures of ladder slasher.


Yes Int is displayed... as it does in my explanation.

Main Slot (without the 31 int from the other charm) = 192-592
Acc Slot (with 31 int charm in main slot) = 222-592

Funny how only the minimum healing capacity gained an increase... ???
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Quote (Cloudfire @ Nov 23 2009 12:48pm)
I think I'm arguing to a brick wall about a point the thread wasn't actually about in the first place.

/out


:rofl: as we do... i mean I am the best BRICK wall out... reinforced steel rods and foundation


This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 22 2009 06:53pm
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I think I'm arguing to a brick wall about a point the thread wasn't actually about in the first place.

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Nov 22 2009 07:10pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Nov 22 2009 07:42pm)
Yes Int is displayed... as it does in my explanation.

Main Slot (without the 31 int from the other charm) = 192-592
Acc Slot (with 31 int charm in main slot) = 222-592

Funny how only the minimum healing capacity gained an increase... ???
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:rofl: as we do... i mean I am the best BRICK wall out... reinforced steel rods and foundation


what you are saying, minimum increased would be an error. you have made a mistake or there is a glitch in ladder slasher.
there is nothing in LS which makes minimum increase only.

you are trying to suggest for intelligence bonus to reflect in the actual item. IT DOES. You have made a mistake or there was a glitch on your screen.


This post was edited by przy on Nov 22 2009 07:11pm
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Quote (przy @ Nov 23 2009 01:10pm)
what you are saying, minimum increased would be an error. you have made a mistake or there is a glitch in ladder slasher.
there is nothing in LS which makes minimum increase only.

you are trying to suggest for intelligence bonus to reflect in the actual item. IT DOES. You have made a mistake or there was a glitch on your screen.


Not sure if a glitch... I am basing this on what appeared when I was in a catagroup and trying to explain a point of view...

1. I dragged Heal from my Acc Slot into the Msg Screen (was weaing 31 int charm on Main slot)
... the numbers showed: 222-592
2. I swapped to my Main Slot... dragged it into the msg screen (no extra 31 int)
... the numbers showed: 192-592

These numbers are based on recollection... but I do recall that Maximum did not change and there was around 30 diff in minimum...
I will test this out tonight with my 24 Int charm and my Focus heal...

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Nov 22 2009 08:14pm
Quote (przy @ Nov 23 2009 12:17am)
First, there is no crit healing or amp healing.
Second, no.

One of the allures of ladder slasher is not having all of the answers. No one knows the dexterity formula. No one knows a crit strike formula.  All of these things are purely speculation all the way down to the modifier chart by Ragnaroks.

If all of the game mechanics were exposed I think we would lose one of the best parts of ladder slasher, the mystery and intrigue of never quite knowing.  Every time the game would change, everything would be predictable if we had all of the answers.


I agree with this, but it only applies up to a certain point. Frustration can very easily outweigh mystery if too much is left unrevealed and everything feels like guesswork :-/
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Nov 23 2009 12:12pm
Just been testing... now i did this in Chatroom.. not cata... and it seem okay so far:

07:05 izMuleI> Mystical heal XIV, Heals: 196 to 524, +2% Glancing Blow, +1 to 14 Mana per Kill, +102% Enhanced Effect
07:05 izMuleI> No int items on... Acc/main
07:05 izMuleI> Mystical heal XIV, Heals: 224 to 599, +2% Glancing Blow, +1 to 14 Mana per Kill, +102% Enhanced Effect
07:06 izMuleI> Acc +33 int dagger
07:06 izMuleI> Mystical heal XIV, Heals: 255 to 680, +2% Glancing Blow, +1 to 14 Mana per Kill, +102% Enhanced Effect
07:06 izMuleI> Acc + 33 int dagger & + 36 int Robe
07:06 izMuleI> Mystical heal XIV, Heals: 275 to 735, +2% Glancing Blow, +1 to 14 Mana per Kill, +102% Enhanced Effect
07:07 izMuleI> Acc 33int/36int (wpn/armor) and 24 int main charm
07:07 izMuleI> Mystical heal XIV, Heals: 255 to 680, +2% Glancing Blow, +1 to 14 Mana per Kill, +102% Enhanced Effect
07:08 izMuleI> 255-680 Heal is in the Main charm and with 33 int dagger and 36 int robe

Seems to be working fine... so not glitches today...
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Nov 25 2009 01:33pm
Still doing some more testing... r/l is extremelly busy lately...
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Nov 25 2009 05:45pm
Quote (Brainwashed @ Nov 22 2009 06:26pm)
I like the idea and it makes sense to me.

why not show the true values in-game, rather than the need to pull out your calculator and do an equation?


yep
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