Won't happen
It's a money sink designed to funnel fg out of the market.
Basically bad business for Paul

Alex has asked for this before, but Paul didn't implement, which means that his vision does not agree with this...

But it's a good solution for us, so our goal if we want this to happen should be to figure out how to amend so that it fits with what Paul wants. If we can do that, we will get it.

Thoughts?

But there's no tax on things that aren't posted.

I'm suggesting leaving the tax amount as-is, but in the current state people are just not posting things at all. This change (or something similar) would result in WAY more options on MP, and slowly/inevitably more trades actually happening, which means more tax coming in.

ONE EXAMPLE: I need a 30+ dex robe for ninja. I've been checking MP frequently for 3 days and there's LITERALLY nothing posted. The gear I'm looking for is in that sweet spot where people don't bother posting because they'd lose too much FG waiting on a buyer, but I'd need to spend 3k+ for a BETTER item than I want because that's all people bother holding onto (like a 50+dex). I've only found one that's realistic on forum posts for what I want (30-40ish), and it's just not worth the cost for a lvl 35 item w/ 4 more dex than I have. I'm confident that type of item would exist with my idea or something similar.

I had similar issues gearing up a fresh account when I started ~ a month ago. Roped a buddy into starting recently and he's got the same issue. Barren market. Stuff's either crazy cheap or just non-existent, then a giant gap to much bigger costing items on the forums.

Not saying my idea is "perfect", but I do think it'd have no actual cons after maybe a few weeks of everyone getting used to the change. More trades happening = more tax = more money for JSP. Everyone wins.

Haven't voted yet, but here are some things that did happen with Marketplace.

Market place has 0 limit on how many items you can put there. Hence only 25 spots for items under 20 forum gold and Tax not getting taken until the item(s) are sold. Above 20fg tax automatically removed, now there is an update that allows you to "Edit" these items WITHOUT charging you another Fee (within 7 days)... if it is not higher of course. Oh, I believe that there is a 6 month or 1 year update that will REMOVE Expired items remaining on the MP after that time.

Did not read everything, and sure this has already been mentioned by yourself or another:

Increase the minimum from under 20 forum gold to 100 forum gold before Fee is removed. On top of this, increase the 7 days to 14 days and also the minimum limit from 25 to 50.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 16 2024 04:11pm

Yeah similar suggestions, I think anything like that would be a MASSIVE improvement for early players who don't already have full kits of 150+EE items.

Maybe my suggestion is rough and not ideal, sure I'm on board, but I'd challenge anyone to make a new account and gear up solely off MP. It's not even "well this item's worth 10fg but it's posted for 20..." it's "why does nothing exist"

EDIT: Obviously they want the MP to do well or they wouldn't have put all the time/changes into it in the past right? I could be wrong but that sounds like a safe assumption.

This post was edited by Tonst3r on Mar 16 2024 04:17pm

I really like this idea!! This, or maybe raise the fee to like 100+ or something like that.

I both like your passion and also agree with you that wasting time in threads as a time sink in order to acquire better gear sucks, especially for new people. It would be nice to have more options in game even if overpriced and the economy would work itself out.

The problem is that the fee itself keeps people in line from not putting stuff overpriced and people are stubborn. They will keep it up for the same price for years just because. Having the item available is nice.

Maybe some middle ground could be met in the discussion where the 5% fee is only charged up front if items is more than 100 fg.
Item values in game have changed so many the fg minimum value upfront could be changed to adapt.

everytime I see your avatar I smile.

But yeah 100% some good points being made, maybe full-on removing it isn't a great answer but SOME kind of adaptation would be greatly appreciated, if it were to happen.

It could work to be removed and if people want to over price stuff then so be it.

What will not be removed is the 5% fee.

I'd love to see any version of your suggestion implemented whether its just raising the amount slightly to adjust for inflation or removing the upfront fee. These little QOL updates help us trade better and enjoy the game better.

ONly time will tell. Keep on coming up with good ideas and if u really like it, bump it push for it and it might be implemented.

So something similar to my post final paragraph earlier:



#1 Increase the minimum of 20 fg to 100 fg before tax is automatically removed.
#2 Increase the days of duration of the item posted on MP from 7 days to 14 days.
#3 Increase the Minimum quantity of these items from 25 to 50.

These QoL changes will and can be helpful in my opinion ... I can also see in the future (being from NZ ) that people may say that this is not enough.