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Sep 6 2023 05:02am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Sep 6 2023 12:39pm)
I personally think that is totally BS. Hear me out.

Level 1 Catacomb = 5x5 Dimension (25 tiles) ... thus once a tile has been "Explored", you will NOT encounter an Evil Presence.

Your answer indicates that a 5x5 Dimension level 1 catacomb of 25 tiles @ 50% to encounter an Evil Presence means that you will encounter at LEAST 10 tiles of Evil Presence. Am I correct in this equation? I could be wrong for certain... however you maybe correct if an Event has 100% more EPs and when you create the level 1 catacomb the RnG states that 8 tiles will Spawn EPs ... thus you will have 16 tiles of EPs out of the 25 tiles.

The above paragraph does NOT include any +Emblems, +Well, +TD etc.
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Okay... now I need to know where you are coming from? Was your "Avg 50" reply to higher Catacomb dimension(s) and based on the amount of "Tiles" of that catacomb dimension? (example 32wX21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+ and 50 tiles = an Evil Presence spawn???)

Well my answer is "No" ... 672 tiles and 50% of them being 32 EP tiles is what I would LOVE to happen, however, that number diminishes based on Warm Lights, Teleport Traps, Treasure Chests and Emblems ... also Trap Doors (differs based on the Event).

I have done many runs at higher level catacombs, and even the most EP encounter(s) I have had in a single catacomb is NOT even 15 tiles.

I know you have encountered this also... so 50% is overkill. (EDIT: or even 50 Tiles is... hmm?)


I tested it, if u explore a field the chance is ~2% to get an evil, so in avg u get every 50 explored fields an evil. Because of a high variance., u sometime get 50% less evils than expected, sometimes u get 50% more... Simple stochastic...
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Sep 6 2023 05:15am
Quote (tor_zero @ 6 Sep 2023 23:02)
I tested it, if u explore a field the chance is ~2% to get an evil, so in avg u get every 50 explored fields an evil. Because of a high variance., u sometime get 50% less evils than expected, sometimes u get 50% more... Simple stochastic...


Interesting... and I appreciate the explanation.

~2% EP
~2% Warm light
~2% Trap Door
~2% Spin/Flash
~2% Objective (Certain criteria negates this, especially when running level 1 character in full catacombs up until level 6 for the next objective)
~2% Emblem

THIS does NOT include RnG of the tiles allocated to any of the above when creating the "Catacomb" (NOT a map that has specific rules).

Sorry, I don't agree with what you tried to imply ... here are some dimensions of catacomb size(s) I am trying to complete, and your example will not fit.

Additional Information previously quoted has been included into the the Table (Code) format below as well as an explanation or more:

KEY:
w = Width
h = Height
+ = complete at higher level
- = complete at lower level
+/- = completed either lower or higher level
?? = incomplete information

Code
Dimension Catacomb Completed by:

05wX05h level 01 (level 02)
05wX05h level 02 (level 03)
06wX05h level 03 (level 04)
06wX06h level 04 (level 05)
07wX06h level 05 (level 07)
07wX06h level 06 (level 08)
08wX06h level 07 (level 09)
08wX07h level 08 (level ??)
09wX07h level 09 (level 11-13)
09wX07h level 10 (level 13)
10wX07h level 11 (level 15)
??wX?? level 12
11wX08h level 13 (level 16)
11wX08h level 14 (level 18)
12wX09h level 15
12wX09h level 16 (level 20)
??wX?? level 17
13wX09h level 18 (level 23-/+)
??wX?? level 19
14wX10h level 20 (level 26)
15wX10h level 21 (level 31)
16wX10h level 22 (level 26+)
15wX11h level 23 (29+)
??wX?? level 24
16wX11h level 25 (level 34)
17wX14h level 26 (level 32)??
??wX?? level 27
??wX?? level 28
19wX12h level 29 (39+/-)
??wX?? level 30
19wX?? level 31 (Td'd ?)
20wX13h level 32 (level 43)
20wX13h level 33 (Td'd ?)
21wX14h level 34 (level 46)
??wX?? level 35
??wX?? level 36
??wX?? level 37
??wX?? level 38
24wX15h level 39 (level 55+/-)
24wX15h level 40 (level 59+)
??wX?? level 41
??wX?? level 42
25wX16h level 43 (level 61)
??wX?? level 44
??wX?? level 45
26wX17h level 46 (level 67)
??wX??h level 47
27wX17h level 48 (level 72+)
??wX?? level 49
29wX18h level 50??
30wX18h level 51??
??wX?? level 52
31wX19h level 53??
??wX?? level 54
32w20h level 55??
32wX21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+)
32wX21 level 57??
??wX?? level 58
??wX?? level 59
??wX?? level 60
??wX?? level 61
??wX?? level 62
??wX?? level 63
??wX?? level 64
??wX?? level 65
??wX?? level 66
39wX24h level 67??
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