Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 27 2019 12:55pm)

I was drunk, who the fuck cares besides yourself.

Quote (Jupiter5 @ 27 Feb 2019 19:36)

If the game had better drop rates, nobody would bother posting their fail drops

Is it a coincidence that this topic was made Sep 23 2016 not Sep 23 2006? And that there are at least a few times less people playing the game now, than there were around 10 years ago

Why did all these people decide to stop playing all of a sudden? If you check dead ls accounts/guilds a loooot of them have stopped playing somewhere between 2012 and 2015

Probably 80% of the ls community don't want to explore now, neither groups or solo. Most of the people that want to do it are somewhat "new" to the game like me

I can sort of understand not wanting to group explore, because it always seems like someone else is getting the drops, but why do so many people ( mostly old ) not want to solo or even play the game at all?

You can't convince me that nobody wants to find good stuff anymore... it's obvious that the general consensus in the community is that exploring is not worth your time and the older you are in this game, the more it applies to you... so that must mean it's not as worth it as it was before

Quote (Jupiter5 @ Feb 28 2019 02:36pm)

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Quote (BWConformity @ Feb 28 2019 12:20pm)

The reason I care about addressing mathematical errors and incorrect reasoning when they are passed off as public information is so that players don't waste time/energy/fg based on bad information. When I first started playing LS there were quite a few people who gave me really great and correct information, Alex was probably top of the list there :) but there were a few people who gave me really bad information and passed it off as expert knowledge. When I see something like this happening, I want to help the next guy not try to do something that won't work (like trying to stack elemental mastery on lvl 15 gear in hopes that it will heal him, since it never will). In any case, it seems like you actually want to know how the game works, not just make stuff up, it's just that you make a lot of mistakes, so I want to help correct those when I can. I was under the impression that you also care, besides myself.

Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 27 2019 05:30pm)

The game does have better drop rates after arena was removed. I wasn't as lucky with Arena as Cheeya, I hardly found anything decent.

People left because of constant nerfs to things that was good for getting ahead in the game. I left because Heal Mastery got nerfed, then I stayed away longer because of health issues.

Exploring catacombs is basically up to the people that are playing, I was ALWAYS (& wanted to be) the driver in our groups [Datis / Matt / Chris / Myself] were the main 4, we would have Buf, Atom, Travis, Trevor and a lot of other different people from different guilds fill in the last spot. The thing is, we ALWAYS explored, we had a DROP selection (whiich items could be picked up by whom and nobody else clicked on it) ... thing is, again nerfs made people quit the game, of all people I would think that wouldn't quit LS... Datis, but the nerfs ended his goals in the game (I have already stopped), then Matt, Chris followed... damn... Matt and Chris was suppose to return with me... damn chickens... :D

Once whistling was introduced, that was it... who needs to explore when you can get in a full climb in 1.5 hours compared to 3 hours. People had lives, this was great, they could get in a full run or two instead of the old days parking it at different levels. Then it became constant whistle climbs, I have gear, you can still find gear while whistling, why not just whistle and get more GPs... etc That is what happened to most people that play.

Don't get me wrong, there are those that explore, some groups are now whistling to X level and now exploring to gain any other drops they might get from EPs.



It is funny... I did a shit load of testing, send you a PM to view it and get no response to either, yet you were and are posting to everything else. That is why I took a break from CS testing and posting (outside of my own health issues), because you spend more time on correcting someone instead of replying to someone that thought was helping out, even if I had different hypothesis or theories.

Quote (Jupiter5 @ Feb 27 2019 06:36pm)

I can sort of understand not wanting to group explore, because it always seems like someone else is getting the drops, but why do so many people ( mostly old ) not want to solo or even play the game at all?

Quote (InsaneBobb @ 27 Feb 2019 22:17)

Old school arena, it was roughly an hour to an hour and a half to MQ. In my time playing, I've personally found 4 200+ ee items (one was a t1 charm I shrined, one was a tXII robe I shrined, one was a massive earth charm, and I forget the other) and 1 item I box muted was 200+ ee as a wild heal. Every mob had the potential to drop something truly amazing. And it was relatively fast. Every mob was an EP with all the potential of an EP.

Imagine that being your first several years on the game. Even after the version update to real time. Then suddenly you are forced to do this maze thing with these underpowered garbage mobs that drop nothing but tier 1, and you will never again find an item like this, which was barely usable at the time it was found beyond like level 15:

Mystical rusted dagger
Damage: 5 to 10

+27 Strength
+32 Intelligence
+1 to 58 Mana per Kill

The game has changed drastically, and in nearly entirely negative ways for those of us who were here from (nearly) day 1. Why don't they come back and play? It's a completely different game, and one they are not interested in. Simple enough.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 28 2019 06:17am)

Old school arena, it was roughly an hour to an hour and a half to MQ. In my time playing, I've personally found 4 200+ ee items (one was a t1 charm I shrined, one was a tXII robe I shrined, one was a massive earth charm, and I forget the other) and 1 item I box muted was 200+ ee as a wild heal. Every mob had the potential to drop something truly amazing. And it was relatively fast. Every mob was an EP with all the potential of an EP.

Imagine that being your first several years on the game. Even after the version update to real time. Then suddenly you are forced to do this maze thing with these underpowered garbage mobs that drop nothing but tier 1, and you will never again find an item like this, which was barely usable at the time it was found beyond like level 15:

Mystical rusted dagger
Damage: 5 to 10

+27 Strength
+32 Intelligence
+1 to 58 Mana per Kill

The game has changed drastically, and in nearly entirely negative ways for those of us who were here from (nearly) day 1. Why don't they come back and play? It's a completely different game, and one they are not interested in. Simple enough.

Quote (Jupiter5 @ Feb 28 2019 06:42pm)

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Do I think many of the items posted in here are total trash? Yes. But if people want to post them who cares.

Quote (ddevin @ Feb 28 2019 07:04pm)

ddevins nightly well fails.

Rare sapphire polearm
Level Req: 30
Damage: 123 to 329

+27% Enhanced Effect
+1% Wind Mastery

Rare imbued leather armor
Level Req: 30
Physical Defense: 16 to 48
Magical Defense: 9 to 37

+777 Max Mana
+2% Experience Gained

Rare coral scale armor
Level Req: 30
Physical Defense: 19 to 77
Magical Defense: 11 to 33

+19% Enhanced Effect
+1% Experience Gained

Rare sapphire chain mail
Level Req: 30
Physical Defense: 32 to 81
Magical Defense: 0 to 18

+20 Vitality
+1% Physical Damage Reduction

Mythical mithril plate mail
Level Req: 25
Physical Defense: 28 to 86
Magical Defense: 0 to 8

+22 Strength
+2% Experience Gained
+1 Life Regen
+1 to 27 Life per Kill
+4% Heal Mastery

Magical heal VIII (side drop)
Level Req: 25
Heals: 45 to 120
Mana Cost: 61

+79% Enhanced Effect

Magical ice IX
Level Req: 30
Spell Damage: 51 to 61
Mana Cost: 69

+8% Enhanced Effect