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Nov 30 2017 10:16pm
Quote (PhiRip @ 1 Dec 2017 05:14)
Agreed, but you still get the same amount of xp for the time spent doing the skilling is my point. If you glyph 1 per minute non event and 2 per minute with event you will still get approx the same xp. Does take more resources though, but initially when I saw this particular event for these various skills I saw it as a way for high lvl skillers to turn quick profit as they can get much more done faster that can in turn be sold.


Yeah, only if you actually complete the glyph and wont fail it.
You can't go on a 100% winning,

I am glyphing multiple of t3-4s for ppl ehre and there and i could tell that i fail alot of those even.
one bad ?!?! will snag the whole bar, and those still show up here and there (also if u missclick once it can also snag the whole bar).

So all im saying, you cant say that u gain that much because you will still fail glyphs

This post was edited by RistVaLL on Nov 30 2017 10:19pm
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Yeah, only if you actually complete the glyph and wont fail it.
You can't go on a 100% winning,

I am glyphing multiple of t3-4s for ppl ehre and there and i could tell that i fail alot of those even.
one bad ?!?! will snag the whole bar, and those still show up here and there (also if u missclick once it can also snag the whole bar).


So all im saying, you cant say that u gain that much because you will still fail glyphs


That's ridiculous. Still getting that crap on glyphs that are several tiers below your minimum.
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Nov 30 2017 10:24pm
Quote (PhiRip @ 1 Dec 2017 05:23)
That's ridiculous. Still getting that crap on glyphs that are several tiers below your minimum.


Yeah it's sad but true. One bad click can fail the whole glyph. But it's rare to missclick and fuck it up with 1 click, but it do happen, mostly it's the god damn !??! that fucks me over and over and over again.
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Quote (PhiRip @ Dec 1 2017 02:14am)
Agreed, but you still get the same amount of xp for the time spent doing the skilling is my point. If you glyph 1 per minute non event and 2 per minute with event you will still get approx the same xp. Does take more resources though, but initially when I saw this particular event for these various skills I saw it as a way for high lvl skillers to turn quick profit as they can get much more done faster that can in turn be sold.


There is no quick profit. Skilling is an extremely slow process and practically no one buys glyphs. There is no quick. There is no profit.
Transmuting + fishing really doesn't fail. Glyphing fails often. Glyphing proficiency is significantly lower than the other skills.


For glyphing + transmuting faster% = having to find more items or buy more items. That is also time consuming so that actually slows you down. You do a glyph 50% faster but that time you saved you spend buying more items off the market and stuffing them in your vault. Aka no time saved.




Here is the math wisely revealed by the master (go calculate) :

Quote (PhiRip @ Dec 1 2017 12:23am)
If you add up the experience you gain for each item muted/ glyphed/ shoved up your booty and note the time taken to do them. You will gain the same amount with or without the event.
Go ahead go calculate and then apologize in the thread.... thanks


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Quote (Bob888 @ Dec 1 2017 11:38am)
There is no quick profit. Skilling is an extremely slow process and practically no one buys glyphs. There is no quick. There is no profit.
Transmuting + fishing really doesn't fail. Glyphing fails often. Glyphing proficiency is significantly lower than the other skills.


For glyphing + transmuting faster% = having to find more items or buy more items. That is also time consuming so that actually slows you down. You do a glyph 50% faster but that time you saved you spend buying more items off the market and stuffing them in your vault. Aka no time saved.




Here is the math wisely revealed by the master (go calculate) :



Some people just cant understand
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Dec 1 2017 10:34am
Faster glyphing: Fail % doesn't change. Tying your amount of stock you have to the experience gained is irrelevant. You have 10 skillers on hand for your rank; you complete 8 fail 2 (whatever the usual would be doesn't matter) you'd do that either way if it took you 10min or 5min. From an efficient stand point it's great you accomplish more in less time that's it.

10x glyphing exp: you just got 10x more exp on those 8 you passed yay.

Now you have both working together: omgzorz I just did my whole stock of 1k skillers 61.29% faster than I would have without this event and I got 10x more experience on the ones I completed B) Now I have more time to use my clubs on guardians. Such ladies heyyyyy.
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Faster glyphing: Fail % doesn't change. Tying your amount of stock you have to the experience gained is irrelevant. You have 10 skillers on hand for your rank; you complete 8 fail 2 (whatever the usual would be doesn't matter) you'd do that either way if it took you 10min or 5min. From an efficient stand point it's great you accomplish more in less time that's it.

10x glyphing exp: you just got 10x more exp on those 8 you passed yay.

Now you have both working together: omgzorz I just did my whole stock of 1k skillers 61.29% faster than I would have without this event and I got 10x more experience on the ones I completed B) Now I have more time to use my clubs on guardians. Such ladies heyyyyy.


Some people just cant understand.
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Quote (PowerTripped @ Dec 1 2017 02:34pm)
Faster glyphing: Fail % doesn't change. Tying your amount of stock you have to the experience gained is irrelevant. You have 10 skillers on hand for your rank; you complete 8 fail 2 (whatever the usual would be doesn't matter) you'd do that either way if it took you 10min or 5min. From an efficient stand point it's great you accomplish more in less time that's it.

10x glyphing exp: you just got 10x more exp on those 8 you passed yay.

Now you have both working together: omgzorz I just did my whole stock of 1k skillers 61.29% faster than I would have without this event and I got 10x more experience on the ones I completed B) Now I have more time to use my clubs on guardians. Such ladies heyyyyy.


Quote (PhiRip @ Dec 1 2017 03:51pm)
Some people just cant understand.



You get HALF the proficiency for having done them twice as fast. It's faster. It's not more efficient.

10x xp per glyph means about 4-6% CHARACTER XP not glyphing proficiency.

Cmon guys. You've been around for years and still don't know this? Come in here with blind arrogance and have no clue what you're talking about.




Quote (PhiRip @ Dec 1 2017 04:00pm)

I apologize... I didn't realize you were slow.. so sorry man best of luck



You're making fun of me.... and you're WRONG... Really this is just showing character now. Please help the community with more misleading false information :) .


This post was edited by Bob888 on Dec 1 2017 12:10pm
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Quote (Bob888 @ Dec 1 2017 01:06pm)
You get HALF the proficiency for having done them twice as fast. It's faster. It's not more efficient.

10x xp per glyph means about 4-6% CHARACTER XP not glyphing proficiency.

Cmon guys. You've been around for years and still don't know this? Come in here with blind arrogance and have no clue what you're talking about.







You're making fun of me.... and you're WRONG... Really this is just showing character now. Please help the community with more misleading false information :) .


Sounds like you are looking for drama bro that's why I tried keeping it to PMs ;) Whos character are we talking about again?

Edit- There is a difference between a healthy debate which we had going and I tried continuing in PMs, but I guess it just got too much for you. :/

edit2- post #1720 is where someone took offense to their own statements and where the convo started going astray. Feel free to reread it. I have

This post was edited by PhiRip on Dec 1 2017 12:20pm
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Quote (PhiRip @ Dec 1 2017 02:15pm)
Sounds like you are looking for drama bro that's why I tried keeping it to PMs ;) Who's character are we talking about again?

Edit- There is a difference between a healthy debate which we had going and I tried continuing in PMs, but I guess it just got too much for you. :/



Healthy debate? Arent you the one who insulted him?
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