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May 11 2011 11:44am
Quote (MrMoJoRising @ May 12 2011 05:42am)
Tom, Dick, and Harry are newbs bro. I'd crush them in rental sales.


Newbs have zero fg, how can you make fg if they have zero fg.
at most, they would make 10fg and rent it out for a day

Quote (MrMoJoRising @ May 12 2011 05:47am)
Someone could come to LS with 1 million Fg and be a newb....

Anyways, I'm just playing with you now, and you seem to be getting a little upset. So... GL on MQ's!


:rofl: I like things that push me past that single braincell that I have at times... tunnel vision
Sorry.

Mind you a person with 1mil fg would not hire, how do you think they got 1mil
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 12 2011 05:48am)
Bank? For 5fg per piece of gear per day? Bah, I'd wait until I have a week I can waste, rent your MQ gear for that week (omg, 105fg!!!), get in 70 MQs, pocket all the drops, sell the drops for hopefully more than I paid, and laugh because I got more FG out of your gear than you did.

Worthless idea. If people set their own prices, then there's no longer any reason to EVER sell gear, which will increase hoarding way more than it is now. If people can't set their own prices, then it's the person putting their item up for "rent" who's getting screwed, not the other way around. :)

The person who the item is "on" is the owner. So Jamal could simply transfer all his HC gear to a friend or guildmate, and he can now rent it.

Put your bourbon down, you aren't thinking straight. :)


Your idea of renting someone elses gear for a week of slashing has one flaw, he might only put it up for 2 days use, or someone already is using it.
BUT... yes you are correct... that would make you more fg than him for renting it out.

If Jamal did transfer his gear out to friend/guildmate etc, who said he would get his gear back or any fg?
the other person might die, might lose their job, kicked out on the streets and no access to a computer...
could kill someone, go to prison for 20 years...

there is a risk of giving your gear to someone else, whether they are friends, family or guildmates.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 11 2011 11:56am
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Quote (izParagonzi @ May 11 2011 01:44pm)
Newbs have zero fg, how can you make fg if they have zero fg.
at most, they would make 10fg and rent it out for a day

OMFG... menality of people that do not see past a single braincell


Someone could come to LS with 1 million Fg and be a newb....

Anyways, I'm just playing with you now, and you seem to be getting a little upset. So... GL on MQ's!
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Quote (MrMoJoRising @ May 11 2011 10:26am)
I'm not even talking about exploiting it, I am talking about actually just straight up using your idea as you are intending it to be used.

I will rent out all my gear, among the best in this game, make a shit ton of Fg and laugh myself to the bank as I have no fear of losing my item in any way.

It is a poorly thought out idea man.  It makes no sense, and like I said, it makes the wealthy richer in it's most basic and intended form.

No need.


Bank? For 5fg per piece of gear per day? Bah, I'd wait until I have a week I can waste, rent your MQ gear for that week (omg, 105fg!!!), get in 70 MQs, pocket all the drops, sell the drops for hopefully more than I paid, and laugh because I got more FG out of your gear than you did.

Worthless idea. If people set their own prices, then there's no longer any reason to EVER sell gear, which will increase hoarding way more than it is now. If people can't set their own prices, then it's the person putting their item up for "rent" who's getting screwed, not the other way around. :)


Quote (izParagonzi @ May 11 2011 10:40am)
Person that OWNS item can NOT hire it from the MP


The person who the item is "on" is the owner. So Jamal could simply transfer all his HC gear to a friend or guildmate, and he can now rent it and have no risk for RIPs costing his gear.

Put your bourbon down, you aren't thinking straight. :)

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 11 2011 11:52am
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 11 2011 01:48pm)
Bank? For 5fg per piece of gear per day? Bah, I'd wait until I have a week I can waste, rent your MQ gear for that week (omg, 105fg!!!), get in 70 MQs, pocket all the drops, sell the drops for hopefully more than I paid, and laugh because I got more FG out of your gear than you did.

Worthless idea. If people set their own prices, then there's no longer any reason to EVER sell gear, which will increase hoarding way more than it is now. If people can't set their own prices, then it's the person putting their item up for "rent" who's getting screwed, not the other way around. :)


You are severly undercutting the rental price of what I would be renting out. A 15 minute glyph of 6 exp sells for 6 fg and sells immediately.... Do you really think I will rent an item for a full day for 5fg that is worth over 100k? Think about it....

BTW, good luck finding any drops to sell that would be any better using someone elses gear.

This post was edited by MrMoJoRising on May 11 2011 11:54am
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Wow that is easily one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. I want to rip my fucking face off after reading that...
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Quote (MrMoJoRising @ May 11 2011 10:52am)
You are severly undercutting the rental price of what I would be renting out.  A 15 minute glyph of 6 exp sells for 6 fg and sells immediately.... Do you really thing I will rent an item for 5fg that is worth over 100k?  Think about it....

BTW, good luck finding any drops that would be any better using someone elses gear.


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Rental price is set by how many days they will rent item out. 5fg per day of use.


Read the suggestion again, mate. He didn't say an "adjustable" price.

And 1 day with some of the sweet ML/ee gear out there, a 500 vault full of wellables, and I'm pretty sure I can make up 100x the cost of 5fg x 3 pieces of gear for a day, yes? Not to mention filling in the gaps well enough to make it no longer worthwhile to rent even at 5fg, rather than use my own. ;)


Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ May 11 2011 10:52am)
Wow that is easily one of the worst ideas I have ever heard.  I want to rip my fucking face off after reading that...


A++

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 11 2011 11:55am
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Read the suggestion again, mate. He didn't say an "adjustable" price.

And 1 day with some of the sweet ML/ee gear out there, a 500 vault full of wellables, and I'm pretty sure I can make up 100x the cost of 5fg x 3 pieces of gear for a day, yes?


Wow... 5fg is the fixed price?

Makes the idea even worse. I didn't think it would be fixed.

Ok, to hell with renting anything out. I'll keep my crap to myself.

Thanks for pointing that out Dom.
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May 11 2011 11:58am
OMFG... did people think they were going to make a FORTUNE renting out gear?

That is why the suggestion is better than your guys "OH I PUT ALL MY BEST GEAR ON THERE AND MAKE A FORTUNE"

It is there to help people out... On HC everyone fvcking hoards shit and does not even sell it... so it sits there
gathering dust... how does that help new people out... and if you did rent out that hoarded gear, it is getting
used and you are making a little fg at the same time.

Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ May 12 2011 05:52am)
Wow that is easily one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. I want to rip my fucking face off after reading that...


go for gold... might be an improvement
sorry... 3am wakeup only 2 coffes now 6am and feeling like a nub.
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This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 11 2011 12:05pm
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OMFG... did people think they were going to make a FORTUNE renting out gear?

That is why the suggestion is better than your guys "OH I PUT ALL MY BEST GEAR ON THERE AND MAKE A FORTUNE"

It is there to help people out... On HC everyone fvcking hoards shit and does not even sell it... so it sits there
gathering dust...


:hello: I thought this!
(But I also misread your post and missed the part about a fixed price per rental, which would now mean I wouldn't rent anything worth a damn out to people, it is not worth it to me)

This post was edited by MrMoJoRising on May 11 2011 12:01pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ May 11 2011 01:58pm)
OMFG... did people think they were going to make a FORTUNE renting out gear?

That is why the suggestion is better than your guys "OH I PUT ALL MY BEST GEAR ON THERE AND MAKE A FORTUNE"

It is there to help people out... On HC everyone fvcking hoards shit and does not even sell it... so it sits there
gathering dust...


Go check out k.impacts characters. He has about 50-75 items he is never going to use and he won't sell them because he is lazy.

And roy will hold everything because he knows you want it.
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