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May 11 2011 11:19am
Quote (xuofsoten @ May 11 2011 10:15am)
I think you're missing my point. If the item won't dissapear upon death, you could have a friend rent out your own item and merely use a ghost image of it. That way if you die you won't have to worry about your items dissapearing.
If you did implement that the item would dissapear on death, nobody would rent out the item in the first place. IF the idea is viable, it won't be on hardcore.


It isn't viable either way on HC.

You either have people using ghosts of their own/friend's/guild mate's items with no risk of losing the item when they die.
Or you have a system where nobody in their right mind would rent a high-end item because of the risk of some shithead dying with it and losing it permanently.
It won't happen, imo.

This post was edited by sigma89 on May 11 2011 11:19am
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May 11 2011 11:20am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 11 May 2011 17:47)
Marketplace Rentals
Note: Please read it fully before judging this idea.
This is where you can rent out your spare items at a price.
The person that HIRES the item pays forum gold to use.
There is of course the standard market fee involved.
Rental price is set by how many days they will rent item out. 5fg per day of use.

How this works:
When an item is put up for rent by the owner, they choose MAXIMUM days they are willing to rent it out for.
When a person wants to HIRE that item, they choose how many days they want to use it for, WITHIN the renters maximum days.
The original item does NOT leave the owners possession, instead, a GHOST image of that item is given to the HIRER.
Since it is a GHOST image, it can NOT be sold... if the person dies with the GHOST image the item is not lost.
When the chosen days are used up, the GHOST image disappears from the Hirers possession.
If there are any remaining days left over, that many will show up in the Marketplace.
You can NOT put a GHOST image up in the rental section.
If the person finds a replacement, they can return the GHOST image to MPR even if the days have not been fully used up.
NO REFUNDS


Rentals, makes me feel like a prostitute :( whoring out my gear and getting it back all nasty and dirty
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May 11 2011 11:23am
Quote (Boss @ May 12 2011 05:13am)
i would ghost all my items every climb
never rip gear


Quote (sigma89 @ May 12 2011 05:14am)
No, Datis quit HC.

Edit: No "hoarding" on HC is anywhere near the kind of control he and his guild had on the best gear in HC.


Quote (MrMoJoRising @ May 12 2011 05:15am)
This is a bad idea. Those who have good gear would be making bank, and those with not so good gear would be completely useless and unable to make fg.

All this is, is a way to make the wealthy richer. If I could charge people Fg to use all my items without the fear of losing it or having it stolen/shrined/trashed/etc, It would be completely UNFAIR!


Quote (xuofsoten @ May 12 2011 05:15am)
I think you're missing my point. If the item won't dissapear upon death, you could have a friend rent out your own item and merely use a ghost image of it. That way if you die you won't have to worry about your items dissapearing.
If you did implement that the item would dissapear on death, nobody would rent out the item in the first place. IF the idea is viable, it won't be on hardcore.


Quote (WildMike @ May 12 2011 05:17am)
dont agree with bolded idea nb but this what i selected give u chance to avoid losing item cuz of RIP so it will be like backup (rolback etc)
imo what is best @ hc when u die u lost all


If I was Paul... I would introduce this idea
Get in alot of new people
Then I would remove it

It is funny how people are thinking of ways to exploit it, yet they all know what Paul is like, he gives you something to use, some people exploit it and BAM WAM THANK YOU MA'AM
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Quote (benell @ May 12 2011 05:20am)
Rentals, makes me feel like a prostitute :( whoring out my gear and getting it back all nasty and dirty


:rofl: ty for that...

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 11 2011 11:24am
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May 11 2011 11:26am
Quote (izParagonzi @ May 11 2011 01:23pm)
If I was Paul... I would introduce this idea
Get in alot of new people
Then I would remove it

It is funny how people are thinking of ways to exploit it, yet they all know what Paul is like, he gives you something to use, some people exploit it and BAM WAM THANK YOU MA'AM


I'm not even talking about exploiting it, I am talking about actually just straight up using your idea as you are intending it to be used.

I will rent out all my gear, among the best in this game, make a shit ton of Fg and laugh myself to the bank as I have no fear of losing my item in any way.

It is a poorly thought out idea man. It makes no sense, and like I said, it makes the wealthy richer in it's most basic and intended form.

No need.
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May 11 2011 11:34am
Sup, anyone need this? I am always open to the idea of loaning safely.

Rare ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 356 to 427

+246% Enhanced Effect
+105 Max Mana
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May 11 2011 11:38am
Quote (Braxton11 @ May 11 2011 01:34pm)
Sup, anyone need this? I am always open to the idea of loaning safely.

Rare ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 356 to 427

+246% Enhanced Effect
+105 Max Mana


Nah dude... I have a better one.
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May 11 2011 11:39am
Quote (MrMoJoRising @ May 11 2011 01:38pm)
Nah dude... I have a better one.


Nah brah, I see your 246 EE and raise you 105 max mana!
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Quote (Braxton11 @ May 11 2011 01:39pm)
Nah brah, I see your 246 EE and raise you 105 max mana!


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May 11 2011 11:40am
Quote (MrMoJoRising @ May 12 2011 05:26am)
I'm not even talking about exploiting it, I am talking about actually just straight up using your idea as you are intending it to be used.

I will rent out all my gear, among the best in this game, make a shit ton of Fg and laugh myself to the bank as I have no fear of losing my item in any way.

It is a poorly thought out idea man. It makes no sense, and like I said, it makes the wealthy richer in it's most basic and intended form.

No need.


I knew where everyone was coming from... but the thread is about getting more people to play...
so... make it easier...

Lets put it this way, everyone that has gear would do exactly what you are doing, and then you are competing with every tom, dick, and harry
You think you will make tons of fg? not likely as much as everyone things they are going to make.

Yes, at the start of it, you will make it in Hardcore, but, not in Sofcore, as death is not an issue.

People look at an idea... see one fault (which I knew b4 posting, it is a very old idea I had) and live on that fault.
Now... you and everyone that has pointed out this fault, would be in competition with each other... it is simple maths
that you would all be trying to cut the throats of the other person.

One thing I should have added, and thank you for pointing out.
Person that OWNS item can NOT hire it from the MP
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May 11 2011 11:42am
Quote (izParagonzi @ May 11 2011 01:40pm)
I knew where everyone was coming from... but the thread is about getting more people to play...
so... make it easier...

Lets put it this way, everyone that has gear would do exactly what you are doing, and then you are competing with every tom, dick, and harry
You think you will make tons of fg? not likely as much as everyone things they are going to make.

Yes, at the start of it, you will make it in Hardcore, but, not in Sofcore, as death is not an issue.

People look at an idea... see one fault (which I knew b4 posting, it is a very old idea I had) and live on that fault.
Now... you and everyone that has pointed out this fault, would be in competition with each other... it is simple maths
that you would all be trying to cut the throats of the other person.

One thing I should have added, and thank you for pointing out.
Person that OWNS item can NOT hire it from the MP


Tom, Dick, and Harry are newbs bro. I'd crush them in rental sales.

This post was edited by MrMoJoRising on May 11 2011 11:43am
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