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Apr 28 2009 10:19am
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Vouch, there's almost no point to the Arena anymore with these updates.


Season 2-8: Found nothing over 100ee

Season 9:

Solo-
200ee lvl 50 club
159ee lvl 40 axe

Well-
150 ee lvl 55 focused heal
200ee lvl 45 wind

No Maze -
220ee lvl 55 ice
190ee lvl 50 axe, gave to TimLikeThat

Mute-
170ee lvl 40 lightning
170ee lvl 40 club

I've found lots of 100-150ish ee thing soloing, welling, muting also. But I mean you can really find things in any aspect of this game as long as you try. I mean seriously you can still find these items, just one piece of it has been nerfed. I almost wish we could nerf it all again and it could go back to just 50 people playing like in season 5. This season has been the longest and most bountiful in item drops since the original muters pre-season 5. About time something got nerfed with drops.

This post was edited by danomak on Apr 28 2009 10:21am
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Quote (bubbachunk @ Tue, 28 Apr 2009, 00:21)

What does this tell me?
Even at the best conditions (15 points per mute, no failures, and only 15 seconds per each mute) it will take approximately 596 hours of game play to be able to be able to mute magical lvl 55 items again. In other words if you would play 4 hours a day every day and get peak conditions (not likely) it will still take ~150 days to reach lvl 65. A more accurate assumption would be somewhere around 5-7 points per mute and 30 seconds leaving you with 2128 hours of game play needed or 531 days at 4 hours a day.

*Lastly this does not take into account the time it takes to find the mutes or the fg it will cost the buy the mutes.

Let me know what you think and if you have any questions.
HAHAHAHA fucking ownage.

definitely the best update ever! ; ]
muting = completely destroyed
welling = almost useless
earning fg from selling mutables = impossible
HC = much harder for new/poor players
and much more

thank God that I've sold all my items some weeks ago!...
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Apr 28 2009 10:30am
Quote (danomak @ Tue, Apr 28 2009, 11:19am)
Season 2-8:  Found nothing over 100ee

Season 9:

Solo-
200ee lvl 50 club
159ee lvl 40 axe

Well-
150 ee lvl 55 focused heal
200ee lvl 45 wind

No Maze -
220ee lvl 55 ice
190ee lvl 50 axe, gave to TimLikeThat

Mute-
170ee lvl 40 lightning
170ee lvl 40 club

I've found lots of 100-150ish ee thing soloing, welling, muting also.  But I mean you can really find things in any aspect of this game as long as you try.  I mean seriously you can still find these items, just one piece of it has been nerfed.  I almost wish we could nerf it all again and it could go back to just 50 people playing like in season 5.  This season has been the longest and most bountiful in item drops since the original muters pre-season 5.  About time something got nerfed with drops.


You got some crazy luck!

I haven't found anything, and the things I have gotten worth selling have all been(surprise?) mutes. Not the case anymore.
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Apr 28 2009 10:31am
in that case... fuck mutes.
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Apr 28 2009 10:41am
Quote (Inaya @ Tue, Apr 28 2009, 10:05am)
i'm just curious. say a few people actually do this and go all the way to 65 prof or whatever the highest is.  what's the reward? you mute a lvl 55 magical sword with a lvl 55 magical essense and PROVIDED the mute is successful (70-90% chance, meaning you could still lose the item) you get back an ultimanium sword with +1 to extra item slots (or maybe +25 ee if you get really really lucky)?


or maybe ull get back a 200 ee item too

just like the old muting system was, its all based on luck if/when people get there
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Apr 28 2009 10:46am
Quote (TheFarSideOfTheForce @ Tue, Apr 28 2009, 09:21am)
then join a guild that has the muting support and that person willing to mute the gear of others within the guild for free

or could throw a tantrum and play ff7

but in the end the choice is yours alone to make

the solutions are availble to you but its your choice to turn them down


If possible may i just throw a tantrum? Because i have yet to do that about this or any update and ive already beaten FF7 long ago. I do appreciate the mis-placed flaming when all i do is state a fact.

Why should i quit my guild of friends just because i am the only one who slashes HC (ok, so we finally have anemoii who started HC too :P)? I dont understand how people base all their posts that everything revolves around LS and you are expected to slash all day everyday. For me its a miracle if i can MQ once a week. I can play MAYBE an hour to two a day. Tops. If im lucky. I know im not the only one who sincerely enjoys LS, but simply is incapable of dedicating more time.



Quote (danomak @ Tue, Apr 28 2009, 10:19am)
Season 2-8:  Found nothing over 100ee

Season 9:

Solo-
200ee lvl 50 club
159ee lvl 40 axe

Well-
150 ee lvl 55 focused heal
200ee lvl 45 wind

No Maze -
220ee lvl 55 ice
190ee lvl 50 axe, gave to TimLikeThat

Mute-
170ee lvl 40 lightning
170ee lvl 40 club

I've found lots of 100-150ish ee thing soloing, welling, muting also.  But I mean you can really find things in any aspect of this game as long as you try.  I mean seriously you can still find these items, just one piece of it has been nerfed.  I almost wish we could nerf it all again and it could go back to just 50 people playing like in season 5.  This season has been the longest and most bountiful in item drops since the original muters pre-season 5.  About time something got nerfed with drops.


Ahh yes the good old days :rofl: - Where you still had to "grind" even if you did have 100ee items. You are quite lucky. I still have yet to join the 200ee club - heck i havent broken 165ee yet, and ive been around way too long...

And is that really fair to the season one HC players that have ripped a ton of amazing gear? Not like gear in Softcore can be "ripped" - just shrined, deleted, or forgotten; and thats just as likely on HC as it is on SC
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Apr 28 2009 10:51am
so so so much misinformation in this thread

no one has even got past rank 4 and you guys are already trying to figure out how muting is gonna play out in the end when nobody except paul knows that for sure

all these threads do is try to scare people with very uninformed information

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What does this tell me?
Even at the best conditions (15 points per mute, no failures, and only 15 seconds per each mute) it will take approximately 596 hours of game play to be able to be able to mute magical lvl 55 items again. In other words if you would play 4 hours a day every day and get peak conditions (not likely) it will still take ~150 days to reach lvl 65. A more accurate assumption would be somewhere around 5-7 points per mute and 30 seconds leaving you with 2128 hours of game play needed or 531 days at 4 hours a day.

*Lastly this does not take into account the time it takes to find the mutes or the fg it will cost the buy the mutes.
Let me know what you think and if you have any questions.


actually those arent even the best conditions, 15 pts per mute is what u get at rank 2, and if the early levels have anything to say, as you rank up you will gain more pts per successful mute so again the only thing that will take any time in muting will be finding the actual items needed

for example

rank 0 muting = .5% of lvl per successful mute (magicals that is rares give 1% of lvl, but after rank 0 all the items give the same amount of exp which is .5% of the lvl per successful item)

rank 2 you need 3000 pts to lvl up, but again u get .5% of the lvl per successful mute which is 15 pts at rank 2, so as you can see the points have absolutely nothing to do with lvling up in rank proficiency as its all about getting that key 200 successful mutes to rank up

so while yes the pts needed to pass a mute goes up, so does the pts earned per successful mute in the end evening it out

so sorry to say but all the calculations u did were for nothing ;)
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Apr 28 2009 10:54am
Quote (BongRippin @ Tue, Apr 28 2009, 10:51am)
zomg long quote


Strait from the mouth of the man at Rank 4 as you mentioned:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=30749664&f=272

as you can see... it will take 350/400 once you get up there. not 200.

And i have to say this has been a VERY useful thread and VERY informative.
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Apr 28 2009 10:55am
the people that actually do mute are going to kill the market now, it will outright itself but gunna take alot of time
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Apr 28 2009 11:02am
Quote (MyNameIsWT @ Tue, Apr 28 2009, 10:54am)
Strait from the mouth of the man at Rank 4 as you mentioned:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=30749664&f=272

as you can see... it will take 350/400 once you get up there. not 200.

And i have to say this has been a VERY useful thread and VERY informative.


ahh ic, i was hoping when paul said it was gonna be easier then glyphin/fishing thats what he was talking about, but i guess not

either way though, to say you only get 15 pts per successful mute with the "best conditions" just isnt true
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