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Quote (4ndr3as @ 7 Jun 2020 16:23)
Am I wrong or was this a thing in Paul's head but high level muter(s) disagreed and did not want it to happen???


Lowki turned it down

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Lowki turned it down


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can't find the thread but i think i said something like" if i had to suffer for years so should everyone else, but paul will do what he wants to do anyways"
bored with muting level 20 items so might as well look for it"

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can't find the thread but i think i said something like" if i had to suffer for years so should everyone else, but paul will do what he wants to do anyways"
bored with muting level 20 items so might as well look for it"


We found it recently and you pretty much said that. I pmed the link to Paul along with some more arguments to make it happen. That was about a month or two ago. Never got a reply or anything. Come to think about it the only time he has replied was when I ran the monster skill identification fund raiser or when I found a bug during the rewrite. Never a reply for good legitimate suggestions for anything. Just who Paul is. Dont take it as we blame you, we definitely know that is not the case. There were lots of other moving parts as to why it didnt happen.

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can't find the thread but i think i said something like" if i had to suffer for years so should everyone else, but paul will do what he wants to do anyways"
bored with muting level 20 items so might as well look for it"


The whole thing is only working if you who have spent time doing it, SELLING the essences instead of rolling them urself.
I dont see how that could hurt u in any way posible.

Especially for you on HC, who else on there are muting? all the silence-ppl? None of them would sell their essences, so on HC that market would be kinda dead still.

It would still be an option to mute just as you are today, for prof, which is the only way to make essences in the first place & rank up.
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The whole thing is only working if you who have spent time doing it, SELLING the essences instead of rolling them urself.
I dont see how that could hurt u in any way posible.

Especially for you on HC, who else on there are muting? all the silence-ppl? None of them would sell their essences, so on HC that market would be kinda dead still.

It would still be an option to mute just as you are today, for prof, which is the only way to make essences in the first place & rank up.


wouldn't want to sell my lower essences, would build them up and at some point go on a level 10/15/20/25 muting spree

what i did/do now is mute a item into an essence(prof gain)and use that essence+item to mute(more prof gain) i'd lose that 2nd prof gain and it would take me that much long to gain levels because hc is dead and next to now items ro buy. which is why i stopped in the first place years ago. ( if i remember what that old thread said)
but paul can change it if he wants. i barely get on nowadays.( maybe unlock vault for 1 month once a year)

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wouldn't want to sell my lower essences, would build them up and at some point go on a level 10/15/20/25 muting spree

what i did/do now is mute a item into an essence(prof gain)and use that essence+item to mute(more prof gain) i'd lose that 2nd prof gain and it would take me that much long to gain levels because hc is dead and next to now items ro buy. which is why i stopped in the first place years ago. ( if i remember what that old thread said)
but paul can change it if he wants. i barely get on nowadays.( maybe unlock vault for 1 month once a year)


Quote (JonWon @ Jun 6 2020 07:08pm)
That sounds wonderful.
But my concern would be for new muters trying to rank up. Not trying to make this about me, but recalling my grind from when I started muting; the re-rolling of the essences for the prof in particular kept me going with the thought in mind of finding that hard earned drop.
What would your thoughts be if it was the way it was now - but if the essence was BELOW your rank only then it would become instantaneous?

tl;dr even tho not possible for me:
From what I understand you're saying, rolling on any essence = instant with no experience
From what I'm saying only if you've "out-ranked" the essence would it now be instant with no experience. If it's still inside your rank, it would not be instant and you still get that exp gain.

Thoughts on something like this? Basically when you've outleveled your tier of being able to gain exp for the prof, you are rewarded with rolling those tiers below you instantly

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Thoughts on something like this? Basically when you've outleveled your tier of being able to gain exp for the prof, you are rewarded with rolling those tiers below you instantly


that sounds good
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wouldn't want to sell my lower essences, would build them up and at some point go on a level 10/15/20/25 muting spree

what i did/do now is mute a item into an essence(prof gain)and use that essence+item to mute(more prof gain) i'd lose that 2nd prof gain and it would take me that much long to gain levels because hc is dead and next to now items ro buy. which is why i stopped in the first place years ago. ( if i remember what that old thread said)
but paul can change it if he wants. i barely get on nowadays.( maybe unlock vault for 1 month once a year)


Also an easy fix to prof gain lose, is double the amount of prof points earned per mute.
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Quote (low-ki @ 8 Jun 2020 00:32)
wouldn't want to sell my lower essences, would build them up and at some point go on a level 10/15/20/25 muting spree

what i did/do now is mute a item into an essence(prof gain)and use that essence+item to mute(more prof gain) i'd lose that 2nd prof gain and it would take me that much long to gain levels because hc is dead and next to now items ro buy. which is why i stopped in the first place years ago. ( if i remember what that old thread said)
but paul can change it if he wants. i barely get on nowadays.( maybe unlock vault for 1 month once a year)


THIS was exactly what I was talking about, it would only be as an option. You can still reroll items just like you are doing today, which was the case when you denied the whole thing back then aswell. But you never cared to listen to the whole proposal.

SO ONCE AGAIN. That whole reroll instant is ONLY OPTIONAL, if you want prof, keep on rerolling the slow way

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