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Jun 2 2016 03:16am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 2 2016 06:14am)
OMFG ... FUCK ME SIDEWAYS, UPSIDE DOWN AND ALL AROUND.... if you did not know anything about the fucking game and how to manipulate it to gain maps and so fucking forth... do you think that old gamers like yourself and myself would teach a newcomer to the fucking game these facts? ... On another fucking note, don't you realise that you have just shown Paul how to abuse the fucking game to satisfy your needs and how many of the current 30 players that are still playing the game are abusing it now. Damn... put a signpost above your head and smile... you are on CANDID FUCKING CAMERA.

Jesus... as I stated before... I thought I was intoxicated.


Taking writing skills from Rucka??
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Jun 2 2016 03:19am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 2 Jun 2016 10:14)
OMFG ... FUCK ME SIDEWAYS, UPSIDE DOWN AND ALL AROUND.... if you did not know anything about the fucking game and how to manipulate it to gain maps and so fucking forth... do you think that old gamers like yourself and myself would teach a newcomer to the fucking game these facts? ... On another fucking note, don't you realise that you have just shown Paul how to abuse the fucking game to satisfy your needs and how many of the current 30 players that are still playing the game are abusing it now. Damn... put a signpost above your head and smile... you are on CANDID FUCKING CAMERA.

Jesus... as I stated before... I thought I was intoxicated.


you can do the "map farming" from lvl 55-71 and not find a single map > lvl 30

this isnt the super crazy mechanic abusing trick. you would know that if you would play ^^

well i guess i talk against a wall anyways ;)
just go sleep ^^ i wont go on talking to you :thumbsup: (you dont have to reply to me.. i wont reply again)
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Jun 2 2016 10:20am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 2 Jun 2016 09:53)
Isn't Shamans still evil presences? I remember whites dropping from Pinch of Evil and Face? what makes NMNM different? is it because Paul nerfed it because people abused it in earlier patches? ... I believe he did, and in some future case, he will also nerf Shamans... and if this happens, the only way to get whites is what? Maps ... normal monsters? ... Bits n Pieces? ... the more nerfs result in the death of this game, so there has to be either balance, or new areas where you can farm, gather items.


Nah, shamans is not EP

These counts as EP; (or counts as EP or not, these does not drop whites)

A Pinch of Evil
Face the Evil
Treasure Pest (I am not completly sure on this one, but i dont think it drops white)
Sneaky¨
Ambush
I dont remember if 4c is counted as ep or not.
Elemental Education
No Maze No More
Mirror Maze

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Meaning Shamans is pretty much the only quest worth farming for whites nowadays.
NMNM tho is supernice drops compared to other quests since it have a bigger chance of droping some nice stuff. also tons of highlevel stuff, so good for skillers.

This post was edited by RistVaLL on Jun 2 2016 10:22am
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Quote (RistVaLL @ 2 Jun 2016 17:20)
Nah, shamans is not EP

These counts as EP; (or counts as EP or not, these does not drop whites)

A Pinch of Evil
Face the Evil
Treasure Pest (I am not completly sure on this one, but i dont think it drops white)
Sneaky¨
Ambush
I dont remember if 4c is counted as ep or not.
Elemental Education
No Maze No More
Mirror Maze

_____________

Meaning Shamans is pretty much the only quest worth farming for whites nowadays.
NMNM tho is supernice drops compared to other quests since it have a bigger chance of droping some nice stuff. also tons of highlevel stuff, so good for skillers.


I dont think NMNM has a higher drop chance then normal evils, it's just the amount of evils that spawn that give you the "mass amount" of items
also I can confirm that whites do not drop in NMNM and do regularly drop at shamans
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Jun 3 2016 05:54pm
Quote (Paparick @ May 12 2016 05:23pm)
Why sell the wellables when all you have to do is spend a little effort and explore the maze rather than whistling in the dark all the time.
Then when you have your well, call in four friends (unless you are in a group already ofc)and beat the living hell out of any well monster that spawns.

The poor buggers ain't got a chance now that we can gang up on them.

Not like the original well where it was 1 on 1, do or die, run and get zip.

EDIT -- Making the old mutable system work again would definitely be a great idea.

Just think: Items like my 55 Chain could possibly become available again

Godly ultimanium chain mail
Level Req: 55
Physical Defense: 44 to 112
Magical Defense: 0 to 32

+55 Strength
+20 Dexterity
+22 Vitality
+53 Intelligence
+3% Experience Gained
+2 Mana Regen
+1 to 26 Life per Kill
+5% Parry

This is not intended to show it off just for the sake of OOH;'and AHH's.

This is intended to show what was possible to make under the old muting system.


as much as you love the thing rick I have always believed that the entire mod system is crapola. of all the items ever created less than a dozen bear similar stats as your baby. we have idk 30 different mods and stats ( been a while ) and afaik no updates so my last experience should be up to date, when i say rolling a legendary item with legendary essences 99.9999999999% of the time crap mods, 99.9999999999 percent of the remaining .000000000001 percent only 1 of those seven mods is good. just freaking silly.

just side note i was saying stack-able sell-able whites right after muting took a nerf and am glad your not getting flamed the hell out of as i was. i haven't been playing much recently of anything ~6-7 months or more. and sadly nothing new here nostalgia is king in my dreams i guess. oh and hi to everyone

IMHO nothing is going to draw people to a game where they can not progress in building up wealth/gear. that progression from nothing is 0 in ls. sad as it is. the reason it worked so well pre muting nerf was anyone could play and get in a group during nm and be guaranteed to sell something and make something. pretty sure the last 10 climbs Ive ever done didn't lead to a single sale much less one that gave me enough fg to pay for upgrades, buy new sets, try new things etc etc. you have to have something that can be farmed in order to grind currency. somehow. as long as it fg based ( not that i have a problem with this ) there needs to be something people can find that will sell regularly. this funds their gear, or weatlh, or vault whatever. without that we are just all pissing in the wind. and the circle gets smaller over time. if no one can make some fg playing the game they arent going to play. not because its fg but because that is the base currency of the game.

This post was edited by GunslingerOfOld on Jun 3 2016 06:06pm
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Jun 4 2016 03:16am
i have to say gunslinger say it 100% ;)
when paul want that this game have a bit more players he have to update the droprates on higher items!!!

or plz paul let us play only you and me and we make 100 soloclimbs
then you will understand that no new player have any chance to upgrade his gear
marcel mutes 300 lvl 55 items now and he say no tier 5 mod on it oO
and there was 200 mystical essences

whats the problem if there drop 200 ee items?
i dont understand that sry
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Jun 4 2016 03:39am
Quote (EvilPresence @ 4 Jun 2016 10:16)
i have to say gunslinger say it 100% ;)
when paul want that this game have a bit more players he have to update the droprates on higher items!!!

or plz paul let us play only you and me and we make 100 soloclimbs
then you will understand that no new player have any chance to upgrade his gear
marcel mutes 300 lvl 55 items now and he say no tier 5 mod on it oO
and there was 200 mystical essences

whats the problem if there drop 200 ee items?
i dont understand that sry


well it is important that not too many 200ee items drop as it would devalue all the existing items, but the drop chance could be a bit higher thats right. keep in mind that the drop chance allready got improved a week ago..

Magical spiderthread robe
Level Req: 55
Physical Defense: 0 to 53
Magical Defense: 82 to 247

+146% Enhanced Effect

this was found allready.. so it is possible to find stuff.. if more players would play, there was a lot more stuff in the drop topic ;)
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Jun 4 2016 06:39am
ofc and we dont need to many 200 ee ofc
but i dont find any 55er items with tier 6 stat on it
if any play could find a dagger with 160 ee on it would be awesome
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Jun 7 2016 10:48pm
Quote (Paparick @ Jun 2 2016 10:16pm)
Taking writing skills from Rucka??


Nope... went to edit the minute I posted and some med/mod got pissed off and gave me a 12 hour suspension... damn... I really hit a nerve in that post didn't I.
You and others know what when I talk about fucking myself this way and what not doesn't give any merits, and normally is ignored.

Quote (ahs_darkhunter @ Jun 2 2016 10:19pm)
you can do the "map farming" from lvl 55-71 and not find a single map > lvl 30

this isnt the super crazy mechanic abusing trick. you would know that if you would play ^^

well i guess i talk against a wall anyways ;)
just go sleep ^^ i wont go on talking to you :thumbsup: (you dont have to reply to me.. i wont reply again)


You NEVER hunt for maps solo'ing, you know this... you create the catacomb with a full group, you get 4 of them to leave the cata and rejoin when a solo'er with
gear and also a trap hunter clear 60% of the cata and have other join to complete it, thus dropping more than 1 map when completed. This also goes for hunting
NMNM, you get a Trap hunter with gear to clear a catacomb that has activated NMNM until they have this objective spawn... and since it is NMNM, you identify it
upon the first EP spawned, go to town and call in your comrades to kill them off while keeping the objective open for the hunter.

Oh... no one knows about this little trick? Shit, that is a shame considering I posted the same information over a year ago when 1.30 version came out.

Quote (RistVaLL @ Jun 3 2016 05:20am)
Nah, shamans is not EP

These counts as EP; (or counts as EP or not, these does not drop whites)

A Pinch of Evil
Face the Evil
Treasure Pest (I am not completly sure on this one, but i dont think it drops white)
Sneaky¨
Ambush
I dont remember if 4c is counted as ep or not.
Elemental Education
No Maze No More
Mirror Maze

_____________

Meaning Shamans is pretty much the only quest worth farming for whites nowadays.
NMNM tho is supernice drops compared to other quests since it have a bigger chance of droping some nice stuff. also tons of highlevel stuff, so good for skillers.


Well, Pinch and Face drop whites, but because they are basically cleared fast and are ignored, they don't come into the equation compared to Shaman hunting... yet... Shaman
hunting is by far the easiest to identify out of those 3. Correct... NMNM does not drop like they once did, but, what do you expect, people abused the system and it got nerfed.
I wonder, how long will it take for Shamans to be nerfedl... since the remaining players that are still currently playing know this fact, have the gear to complete them from level
30 to 65 [if not 70+]. Will it get nerfed? We know that we can spawn Shamans without a full group, we also know that we can call in other players to make a full group to kill them
easier than before... we can also get HIGHER level characters in that same game and damage shamans without killing them, and the droprate for the same level characters remain
the same? Does it need to be nerfed because it can be abused? Should it be nerfed?

End Note: This thread is about coming up with ideas that are different to the way the game is now, and all I see is the same old shit [SOS]. Anyway... guess I get muted again for
pointing out the obvious abusive ways to play this game, yet I have not played it for some time.
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Jun 7 2016 11:33pm
the point is :
you cannot create a droperate for a game like poe where million o ppl are playing.
When i see that 14 players are online ....
i think when 100000 players are online there will be nice drops

but that will never happens

thats the problem

i mute items 6 min for a magical lvl 55

300 essences and no tier 4 stat
and ofc thats okay. but not if u need 6 min for 1 item
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