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#101
May 10 2011 09:52pm
i have a suggestion and im sure it wont be the most popular but WOULD get more people interested.

if you got a certain amount of FG when passing and or failing a mq relative to gps --- like 100fg per gp or one or the other would attract people that want to start developing a decent set in hc or sc that dont want to buy fg

perhaps there could be like 20% of the mp fees would be appropriated to this or maybe its just a promo that goes on for so many weeks or months to get people addicted :P
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#102
May 10 2011 09:53pm
Quote (ineverlose @ May 10 2011 08:52pm)
i have a suggestion and im sure it wont be the most popular but WOULD get more people interested.

if you got a certain amount of FG when passing and or failing a mq relative to gps --- like 100fg per gp or one or the other would attract people that want to start developing a decent set in hc or sc that dont want to buy fg

perhaps there could be like 20% of the mp fees would be appropriated to this or maybe its just a promo that goes on for so many weeks or months to get people addicted :P


i believe u can join a guild that will pay for GPz
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#103
May 10 2011 09:54pm
Quote (SharpDeath @ May 10 2011 09:53pm)
i believe u can join a guild that will pay for GPz


not many options for that, not many guilds accept new players either and not guarenteed
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#104
May 10 2011 09:56pm
Quote (TheBert @ May 11 2011 12:12am)
Other then the outsourcing of the game (via Facebook, blah blah blah)
This is an actually GREAT idea
Because all those other games (Mafia Wars, Farmville, ect...) pretty much all have them
Also they all claim "Play for Free" which you can, but if you want to be one of the "Elite" on those games, same as here, you almost NEED to pay


not really sure if sarcastic but yeah, and by the end of the tutorial you got some ee/stat/whatever depending on your class and your interest (Tank/dps/heal?) you can pick what you want to be. (just for the sake of giving the appropiate item) and then you have the basics already and can get to level 5+ without hesitations. *item will be unsellable (like a white?) and you can only delete it. nothing godly or anything of course but you get the general idea. i dont know. would be interesting, never really thought about this until 5 minutes ago

like oh kill this monster recieve a magical item learn to use shrine with it etc give rewards as in armor/wep/charm teaching cata market place...

This post was edited by y_roc140 on May 10 2011 09:59pm
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#105
May 10 2011 10:08pm
Quote (ineverlose @ May 10 2011 08:54pm)
not many options for that, not many guilds accept new players either and not guarenteed


i believe that it is required to use a med for these sorts of things
still thinking of some sort of tutorial

wait a minute
this is a flash game
it can talk to u and make words appear on the screen as if by magic....

maybe it can be incorporated
that would make it more ideal for advertising sakes ?

still need stable income since gear needs to be upgraded and even useless items can become bloody expensive
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#106
May 10 2011 10:54pm
Quote (Greapper @ 11 May 2011 05:29)
Don't see any way to increase users playing LS.

LS is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive fg wise to play.

*You have to upgrade your gear every 5 lvls ...
*lvl 30 - lvl 55 gear is retardedly expensive
*people in this game flame you / kick you for having mediocre gear
*People on this forum refuse to sell their  unused gear for realistic prices... when the market is flooded with supply and there are 40 people that play the game... it's just stupid.
(just look at the trade topics that have been bumped for months on end with no offers b/c people set the bin or res stupidly high)
*LS is an fg sinkhole.. unless you somehow get extremely lucky.

Look @ those *s from a new players perspective.

playing ls is pretty much pointless.

in addition with the top 3 guilds with 1000000000 points ... it's not even worth trying to compete.


You rock my world with true facts. Something needs to be done with those. Later on or maybe tomorrow I will do some bullet notes with your interesting opinions.
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#107
May 10 2011 11:58pm
if whole community want to keep players in we need solution its obv.
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#108
May 11 2011 12:41am
Quote (y_roc140 @ May 11 2011 03:56am)
not really sure if sarcastic but yeah, and by the end of the tutorial you got some ee/stat/whatever depending on your class and your interest (Tank/dps/heal?) you can pick what you want to be. (just for the sake of giving the appropiate item) and then you have the basics already and can get to level 5+ without hesitations. *item will be unsellable (like a white?) and you can only delete it. nothing godly or anything of course but you get the general idea. i dont know. would be interesting, never really thought about this until 5 minutes ago

like oh kill this monster recieve a magical item learn to use shrine with it etc give rewards as in armor/wep/charm teaching cata market place...



sounds good for nercommers, give them the possibility to get an unwellable/unsellable blank itemset for every 5 lvls (wep/armor for melees, attack-charm and heal for mages)
at least they could help out a bit at killing, were able to solo way better then now and could even start out with 0fg.
grinding the way to the first mq with a lvl 20 wep won't keep them at this game.

Quote (derDrops @ May 10 2011 11:17am)
a better option would be
- to make monster spawns on ur lvl only and not from -1 to +1 of ur lvl.
- make prof gain for monsters of urlvl AND HIGHER, so tds are of any value for soloing
- adjust the monsters life to the amount of players -> make groups slower. 2 hours/climb is just too fast!
- bring something that everyone wants to trade forth and back... we had fish/comfs - bring something that lifts their value again OR make wellables sellable OR both!
--> this will result in newcomers earning fg and progressing faster than now
- pop up descriptions direktly in the game which would make the game selfexplanatory
- attracting graphics. currently the graphics are just simple and boring... some landscape and lovely details would help
- allow more interaction between guilds
- put sc on another server than jsp-forums (like hc) to avoid it getting affected by ddos attacks against jsp

ps: forgot to mention: rebalance off class casting to a valid option of playing


needs to be done for our expirienced players ( besides the server cahnges ;) ) but won't help newcommers out, sry stephan.


Quote (Leee @ May 10 2011 03:31pm)
All the brainstorming is good, but we get "If you don't like my game, don't play it"


Every multiplayer game needs a community.
Maybe listening to them from time to time makes the game better.
Some suggestions are just pointless, but some arn't, like the long wanted "copy and paste more from chatlog. (just an example)

Quote (Leee @ May 10 2011 03:31pm)
InB4 I get warned for being negative.

:hug:


This post was edited by Lost_son on May 11 2011 12:42am
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#109
May 11 2011 12:43am
It's not the intention of us to make the game more attractive. We can't change anything. It's the whole system which fucking sucks.

1) You need to convince people, that playing this game is fun
2) In order to have fun playing, you need at least medicore (if not even better) gear (This is sadly true, you cannot deny that! And new people DO realize that, because they fail at killing mobs and see their mega slow progress)
3) Gear can ONLY be purchased via Forum Gold
4) New players don't have Forum Gold
5) They give up

Let's pretend we (or Paul, HAHA just kidding) advertises on other sites and people decide to give it a try, do they in all honesty care about Guild Points? Do they really care about Fg? GPs and Fg are worthless to them. It's impossible the way it was, is and will be in future.

Forum Gold is the problem. And now the most interesting question. What is the main aim for this game? Is it really to give people fun playing..?
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#110
May 11 2011 04:19am
Quote (Greapper @ May 10 2011 10:29pm)
Don't see any way to increase users playing LS.

LS is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive fg wise to play.

*You have to upgrade your gear every 5 lvls ...
*lvl 30 - lvl 55 gear is retardedly expensive
*people in this game flame you / kick you for having mediocre gear
*People on this forum refuse to sell their unused gear for realistic prices... when the market is flooded with supply and there are 40 people that play the game... it's just stupid.
(just look at the trade topics that have been bumped for months on end with no offers b/c people set the bin or res stupidly high)*LS is an fg sinkhole.. unless you somehow get extremely lucky.

Look @ those *s from a new players perspective.

playing ls is pretty much pointless.

in addition with the top 3 guilds with 1000000000 points ... it's not even worth trying to compete.


This makes little sense. That's like saying to a car dealer "that car has been sitting there for months, you should take my offer(maybe 1/3 of the cars value) because nobody else has bought it". If I buy an item for 20k and you want to buy it vs 3k....not happening. I would rather keep it and let it sit on my account. If it was worth 20k at one point, it may get back to that or close enough that I'd be willing to take a "small" loss. Many people think the same way. It just simply isn't worth selling at a huge loss. Only people that are desperate for forum gold would do that.

I understand how the free market works. I also know that the car dealership will laugh at you.

Hope my analogy makes sense.
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