Voted Yes.

I always play Guardian as a Feeder, thus I never complete Sneaky. As for other classes, I use +Int Gear, including my cast charm that has 0% Enhanced Effect on it, and it takes some time to kill.

Maybe you can have a toggle command in Menu that allows you to switch between Physical Immune to Caster Immune. Or toggle Soften the Sneaky Shell active or inactive (inactive meaning it will not be part of the objectives).

Every time I run into it I have to close and restart.... Its detrimental to play if you only deal mono-damage.

Voted no, one annoying waste of time is enough

This is the right answer

I agree this would help



Well why didn't you vote option 3 then? Lol

No

Actual facts



Because while sneaky is a pain, at least it make sense. Casters need more vit to be safely played. They can get a nice chunk of that early on if they chose to hunt him down asap.

All required characters can kill sneaky. I say required because guardian can’t but feeder as a group can with him being the only exception and honestly who in their right mind plays solo guardian? A melee version that gives what? Int? Pretty junk for melee characters overall and alchy wouldn’t even be able to chip it down. Not to mention an int boost of that level wouldn’t even be about the mana so much as the huge dmg boost. It would be op af

This post was edited by Cheeya on Oct 19 2022 12:53am

I love this debate, and you have some GREAT points. However (or But...);

Soften the Sneaky Shell vs Elemental Education as (AS) an (AN) objective (OBJECTIVE).

Soften the Sneaky Shell 15+ ?? +7 to 15 Vitality
Elemental Education 45+ Stop the Seven Shamans ?? +5 to 10 Intelligence

Now hang on... view the requirements and level requirements for the ACTUAL REWARD.. https://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=18

You can BLATANTLY see the level requirement of each of them:

Sneaky @ level 15
Educa @ level 45

Also:

Sneaky can be done solo
Educa is Group ONLY and LOSES the effect of the REWARD being higher level. (come on)

Now, #2 comes into effect.

A Solo player playing a Guardian feeder will NEVER face Elemental Education... EVEN THOUGH they are more capable of killing them VERSES a CASTER... even in a group, since the caster will only heal the Melee characters in a group, but, if the caster was solo... they would have the same shitstorm that they would NOT clear EE as fast.

No competition... if a Guardian solo player wants to clear Soften the sneaky Shell... it is simple, as soon as it appears, you exit game, create game (if you have not already) and re-create game (this means you do NOT have to log out)... where as competing with Elemental Education... YOU ARE BOUND TO BE IN A GROUP RUN, you can NOT solo it for the REWARD.

BOTH of these OBJECTIVES are useless and should not exist right? (this is the consensus of the negative votes already... whether it is a NO or choosing the THIRD option).

Think about it... EE should actually be level 15 Requirement and also Solo for those that use Melee as their option instead of casting.

EDIT: or Sneaky should be a level 45 requirement in a group run with less Vitality.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Oct 19 2022 01:38am

Skipping sneaky is not completing sneaky. Solo guard cannot complete sneaky only run like the crap class it is

This just goes to show my point. The game isn't equal.
The vita objective is single player obtainable
The Intel objective is multi obtainable ONLY

The lvl reqs are waaaay far apart
And there's already lack of equality in classes.
Rendering a fighter or guardian way less useful than say a mage.
I wasn't fully asking if everyone felt that there should be another objective.
More or less was asking if people felt we needed more equaled out ones.

This post was edited by Outraged on Oct 19 2022 05:50am