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Jul 24 2022 10:41pm
Quote (oBg @ Jul 25 2022 12:30am)
What a shitty attitude towards a returning player lol, your game has a nonexistent player base.

I suggest you seek help if the game is that serious to you.



Is it shitty? Seems pretty accurate and helpful. As a returning player he should know better already.

You seem like a good friend to stick up for your buddy, but I don’t really care how my comments are perceived by you
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Jul 24 2022 10:45pm
Hey guys, don't worry.

I'm trying to buy good gear and not wasting time with the lower end gears. But I haven't thought about how it affects the group and how much I slow it down. I'm sorry.

As for OB, I've never met him yet. I don't want there to be any drama so I'll try and buy gear fast!
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Jul 24 2022 10:55pm
Quote (DeeArk @ Jul 25 2022 12:45am)
Hey guys, don't worry.

I'm trying to buy good gear and not wasting time with the lower end gears. But I haven't thought about how it affects the group and how much I slow it down. I'm sorry.

As for OB, I've never met him yet. I don't want there to be any drama so I'll try and buy gear fast!



Having empty slots for a bunch of levels isn’t a good look. And using a lvl 0 random Dex charm from level 1 all the way to MQ isn’t either. And in the back row with random EE robes isn’t helpful.

The gear you get doesn’t have to be great but needs to support the group and make you better. You can literally buy upgrades in the form of Dex armors and charms for the tiers you’re missing off the MP right now as temps versus having empty slots.

You just have to put in some effort that’s all
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Jul 24 2022 11:33pm
Quote (oBg @ Jul 24 2022 06:30pm)
What a shitty attitude towards a returning player lol, your game has a nonexistent player base.

I suggest you seek help if the game is that serious to you.


Haha, the advice he's giving is good, he's just saying it in the most dickish way possible. Guess that's "Tough [Guy] love" for ya! :thumbsup:
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Jul 25 2022 12:19am
Quote (BWConformity @ Jul 24 2022 10:33pm)
Haha, the advice he's giving is good, he's just saying it in the most dickish way possible. Guess that's "Tough [Guy] love" for ya! :thumbsup:



Welcome to LS :hug:

Personally, I don’t recommend hardcore until you have done a MQ at least once on softcore and had a reasonable feel for the game. There are far far fewer players on softcore than hardcore and since death is still easy to happen (and you lose everything in that character when you die in HC) I don’t see the value in going to HC. Also, finding items of value are actually more difficult to find in the market, and finding items worth selling is equal or even more difficult than hardcore due to the lack of players on hardcore. Again this is my opinion. If others wish to agree or disagree I guess feel free to do so.

Also, if you plan on sticking around in this game, then yes it’s not a bad idea to invest in better gear. When/if you decide to retire you can almost always resell your items for the same amount that you bought them at (unless someone seriously ripped you off).

Edit uhh I have a 200 ee lvl 55 robe I can sell you for 100,000 fg :bonk:

This post was edited by CARTRACK on Jul 25 2022 12:21am
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Jul 25 2022 04:28am
Quote (BWConformity @ Jul 25 2022 01:33am)
Haha, the advice he's giving is good, he's just saying it in the most dickish way possible. Guess that's "Tough [Guy] love" for ya! :thumbsup:


Nah he's always like that. Heaven forbid your mouse dies in that dudes cata group or you get pushed to back row as a tank and don't notice.

The dude cares too much about his Co slashers to be honest. I get the aspect of wanting an effective group. But being rude or acting like the boss of a catacomb, is totally unnecessary. For a guy that chooses to slash in public groups he should try to remember it's a game for fun. Not an outlet of self importance.

Creating an elitist vibe is the most toxic. And instead of being negative towards people who don't have decades of experience, consider being tolerant
Or playing privately.

This post was edited by Outraged on Jul 25 2022 05:22am
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Jul 25 2022 05:35am
Quote (BWConformity @ Jul 25 2022 01:33am)
Haha, the advice he's giving is good, he's just saying it in the most dickish way possible. Guess that's "Tough [Guy] love" for ya! :thumbsup:


Quote (Outraged @ Jul 25 2022 06:28am)
Nah he's always like that. Heaven forbid your mouse dies in that dudes cata group or you get pushed to back row as a tank and don't notice.

The dude cares too much about his Co slashers to be honest. I get the aspect of wanting an effective group. But being rude or acting like the boss of a catacomb, is totally unnecessary. it's a game for fun. Not an outlet of self importance.


I don’t have much tolerance when it comes to lack of effort. If you’re doing your best with what you have and applying yourself I respect that but neither the OP or you Outraged are that case.

OP had empty gear slots for portions of the climb and no armors and used a tier 3 charm to MQ. And it wasn’t for lack of knowledge or resources. It’s disrespectful to the rest of the group and I’ll say something about it so he knows that people won’t climb with him if he establishes himself as that type of player.

Similarly Outraged, 1500 actions in a climb and never noticing when you’re pushed back as tank and us telling you 10 times in chat and us needing to pause for 30 seconds every time until you finally notice is a lack of effort and laziness and disrespectful to the group. So I let you know that. I’m not sorry you’re offended by it, we were offended by your lack of effort too.
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Jul 25 2022 05:37am
Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ Jul 25 2022 07:35am)
I don’t have much tolerance when it comes to lack of effort. If you’re doing your best with what you have and applying yourself I respect that but neither the OP or you Outraged are that case.

OP had empty gear slots for portions of the climb and no armors and used a tier 3 charm to MQ. And it wasn’t for lack of knowledge or resources. It’s disrespectful to the rest of the group and I’ll say something about it so he knows that people won’t climb with him if he establishes himself as that type of player.

Similarly Outraged, 1500 actions in a climb and never noticing when you’re pushed back as tank and us telling you 10 times in chat and us needing to pause for 30 seconds every time until you finally notice is a lack of effort and laziness and disrespectful to the group. So I let you know that. I’m not sorry you’re offended by it, we were offended by your lack of effort too.


You should consider speaking for yourself then. Because I was in groups for 3 climbs. You join the 4th and immediate start complaining. When i had a conundrum with my daughter. You were a donkey. When I was tanking as a courtesy mind you. With like EE robes as a monk.. You are the only one who cares that much and are in your own world if you think otherwise. And after you left 2 out of 3 of the players mocked you and your oversensitivity toward elitism.

I know how you are so idc. I think it's funny. But at some degree you need to see it's toxic and pushed players away from the game you love so dearly.



Negativity breeds negativity, and vise versa. Why not make it the latter

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Jul 25 2022 05:48am
Quote (DeeArk @ 25 Jul 2022 16:45)
Hey guys, don't worry.

I'm trying to buy good gear and not wasting time with the lower end gears. But I haven't thought about how it affects the group and how much I slow it down. I'm sorry.

As for OB, I've never met him yet. I don't want there to be any drama so I'll try and buy gear fast!


Outside of every other post, if you want to make an effort to continue playing this game as it is and the 99% responses or attitudes you may receive during it... I would consider the basics and cheap options for a group climb with minimum effort.

If your character is going to sit in the back in a full group climb... you need to obtain items @ level 15 / 25 / 35 / 45 and of course 55 with this in mind:

Weapon:
Basically 100% or more Enhanced Effect for your class starting as a feeder, but can also be used with a Samurai and Paladin... Sammy = Sword or Dagger... yet Fighter (Feeder) can use a Sword, and a Paladin can use a Sword... not the best weapon, but you can use this with a Ninja.

Armor:
Basically; if you are sittting in the back row... use/buy the best Stat gear available to increase your damage with the weapon you are using... Note: does NOT need to be like 3k + fg items, shit you can get away buying 1-500 fg items.

Main Charm:
Again... + Stat for your weapon damage output, again, levels 15 / 25 / 35 / 45 and 55.

ACC Charm:
Unless you solo... Any heal charm with 125% Enhanced Effect based on lowest Tier level of 25 and work up @ level 35 / 45 and 55.

As for your abilities in a full group... if melee Feeder and above Samurai... Multistrike (remember Group climb)... as for a secondary or third option... depends on gear and your role in the group.

Hope this helps... oh, not many people melee with Stat gear, they love EE armor... :D Hey, play and have fun, that is all that is required as you only play to your volition.
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Jul 25 2022 05:53am
Quote (Outraged @ Jul 25 2022 07:37am)
You should consider speaking for yourself then. Because I was in groups for 3 climbs. You join the 4th and immediate start complaining. When i had a conundrum with my daughter. You were a donkey. When I was tanking as a courtesy mind you. With like EE robes as a monk.. You are the only one who cares that much and are in your own world if you think otherwise. And after you left 2 out of 3 of the players mocked you and your oversensitivity toward elitism.

I know how you are so idc. I think it's funny. But at some degree you need to see it's toxic and pushed players away from the game you love so dearly.



Negativity breeds negativity, and vise versa. Why not make it the latter



I’m not going to get into this bullshit with you tbh. I’ve done several climbs with you and you don’t put forth much effort so I don’t care if you don’t want to climb with me. I guess you always have a dead mouse or family drama or something preventing you from trying. Sounds like we just aren’t compatible and that’s fine.
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