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Quote (Cascadian @ 21 Jul 2022 17:44)
poorly, since I refuse to spend 15,000 fg on items


you dont need 15k to get geard for solo, like 1-5k more than enough to get started, dont expect to climb as fast as a guy who spent 15k to
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you dont need 15k to get geard for solo, like 1-5k more than enough to get started, dont expect to climb as fast as a guy who spent 15k to


I bumped ISO threads with that range for 60+ posts and gave up.

Scrap your gear, don't use your friends list, and use the market and build a solo capable character that can kill more than 3 level 70 mobs before regening health in that range.
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Quote (Cascadian @ Jul 21 2022 11:44am)
poorly, since I refuse to spend 15,000 fg on items


This seems mildly ignorant. I offer guildies gear sets
And pay per gp. So tbh there's no excuse. If you want to play there are options out there.
And to solo the game. You most certainly don't need 15k.
My buffcore char is lvl 56 with no gear what so ever and I've sold multiple whites to make a few hundred from nothing.


But I do understand it's easier to complain than to put in work and find solutions

But posts like this try to create a continued sense of hopelessness and an illusion warding new players off.
Stop putting a bad taste in people's mouths because of your lack of experience

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I casually play in slow times at work solo. And mq about ove every 3 days. Is it fast, nah. But it is at least consistent.
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I casually play in slow times at work solo. And mq about ove every 3 days. Is it fast, nah. But it is at least consistent.


Exactly.

I have a new player I helped, who joined my discord. I've offered him gear. And he invested and asks all the right questions and now has already found one of the best 20 daggers. And sold it for 6k.

It's what you make it.
If you want to rank up your guild alone. It's a grind. But it's totally possible. And honestly I solo 90% of my climbs at this point
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Jul 21 2022 11:42am
Quote (Outraged @ 21 Jul 2022 09:55)
This seems mildly ignorant. I offer guildies gear sets
And pay per gp. So tbh there's no excuse. If you want to play there are options out there.
And to solo the game. You most certainly don't need 15k.
My buffcore char is lvl 56 with no gear what so ever and I've sold multiple whites to make a few hundred from nothing.


But I do understand it's easier to complain than to put in work and find solutions

But posts like this try to create a continued sense of hopelessness and an illusion warding new players off.
Stop putting a bad taste in people's mouths because of your lack of experience


Mildly ignorant? its equally ignorant to assume people want to join a guild in order to do basic activities in the game like MQ :) and while my tone my sound intense, I mean that sincerely. Also you can lay off the personal attacks and assumptions about my mens rea. I don't have a problem that needs solving.

Take my pepsi challenge, roll a new character, don't use any guild support or friends list, and use the market and build a character that can solo climb efficiently on a budget. I hope you like MQing with a 35 sword :D

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Mildly ignorant? its equally ignorant to assume people want to join a guild in order to do basic activities in the game like MQ :) and while my tone my sound intense, I mean that sincerely.


Well I don't assume that. But to start from nothing it's work. Help and short cuts are available. And guides and generous players as well.
You get as far as the tools you choose to utilize. Whether it be your own time or a guild.

You can create a foundation and play the game if you try is all im saying.

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Well I don't assume that. But to start from nothing it's work. Help and short cuts are available. And guides and generous players as well.
You get as far as the tools you choose to utilize. Whether it be your own time or a guild.

You can create a foundation and play the game if you try is all im saying.


Don't be upset when people don't want to play in your sandbox :) I never said its impossible, I just find it unreasonable.

Its not unreasonable that people might expect they can play for free given this site originated from the daiblo 2 community, that users would expect for minimal investment they could progress the game, like diablo. Whereas playing ladder slasher without market support is so extreme they literally call it buffcore - that coupled with a high investment cost for new players to solo to MQ

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Quote (Cascadian @ Jul 21 2022 01:50pm)
Don't be upset when people don't want to play in your sandbox :) I never said its impossible, I just find it unreasonable.

Its not unreasonable that people might expect they can play for free given this site originated from the daiblo 2 community, that users would expect for minimal investment they could progress the game, like diablo. Whereas playing ladder slasher without market support is so extreme they literally call it buffcore - that coupled with an extremely high investment cost for new players....


Well buffcore is playing only self found 100%.
I've made lots of fg from it but in the spirit and sport/challenge you don't use it. But there is fg to be made.

You dont start a d2 char and instantly find a soj.
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