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Dec 31 2021 05:40pm
Same thing happened to me. I had to ask for help from the guild cuz I was getting slapped hitting 0s and all low numbers unless a crit. Which was less than 400. when I was using 150+ str and 170ee 55 sword..
I thought it had to be a magic thing like sneaky but wasn't sure.
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Dec 31 2021 06:10pm
Quote (Mphyoi @ Dec 31 2021 10:26am)
Was Posiaclawn one of the monsters?

Have had similar encounter, not with ambush, but with 3 ep wave. Posiaclawn was one of them.
Highly reduced was my damage output. Do not recall if the crit number was exactly the same, but I'm not saying it wasn't. Happened at least twice that I noticed. Level 64 or 65 3ep wave


Hey mate! Hmm... I don't remember what the other two monsters were, but the first I killed and the only one I attacked for a while was wind o shade... and it was already taking 326 damage crits (exactly, everytime) from the start. This is the main thing I want an answer to... thanks all for confirming the melee damage reduction of ambush though.

Quote (4ndr3as @ Dec 31 2021 11:46am)
I have no clue but I had the same issue over a year ago.
My thought is, that it have to do with swords in general.

I used a 239ee sword and where hitting 0 all time long. ^nr1 came in with a 8 level lower mule with axes and 3-4 shoted any of em

E/ maybe ambush got like a reversed power shot so you allways hit the minimum range from your weapon


That would be really weird if it was based on swords/longswords... but then again, this is LS so you really can't know anything for sure without testing :lol:

that reversed power shot thing seems really interesting... my weapon min here was 152 damage... it doesn't really double into 326 damage even ignoring armor... but maybe the tooltip values are a bit off like they are for axes? Haven't really paid enough attention to know.
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Dec 31 2021 06:15pm
Ambush lowers your max damage to your minimum range at times. Not really sure why that is not always the case though. So if the lower range of your weapon is very low, as in swords, you may find yourself chipping away at them for a long time.
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Dec 31 2021 06:22pm
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why vita so high?


200 ee longsword gonna do plenty of damage might as well stack life ^^
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Dec 31 2021 06:31pm
Quote (RabbitRoyal @ Dec 31 2021 02:15pm)
Ambush lowers your max damage to your minimum range at times. Not really sure why that is not always the case though. So if the lower range of your weapon is very low, as in swords, you may find yourself chipping away at them for a long time.


Ahh okay that makes sense then! I guess the minimum on longswords or maybe all swords is also higher than the tooltip then... otherwise crits should have been 305 or less :P TY for this answer; I had no idea!

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why vita so high?

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200 ee longsword gonna do plenty of damage might as well stack life ^^


Haha, thanks for the vote of confidence bhBc, but actually that's not the reason lol. The reason is that I was trying to hit participation Bigheaded's Christmas prof competition, but I didn't even slash enough to hit 15k -_-

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Quote (BWConformity @ Dec 31 2021 07:31pm)
Ahh okay that makes sense then! I guess the minimum on longswords or maybe all swords is also higher than the tooltip then... otherwise crits should have been 305 or less :P TY for this answer; I had no idea!




Haha, thanks for the vote of confidence bhBc, but actually that's not the reason lol. The reason is that I was trying to hit participation Bigheaded's Christmas prof competition, but I didn't even slash enough to hit 15k -_-



More life less dmg more clicks! :banana:
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Quote (bhBc @ Dec 31 2021 02:39pm)
More life less dmg more clicks! :banana:


Too bad I have more of a life and therefore did fewer clicks and therefore also less prof :rofl:
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Jan 1 2022 02:05am
Ambush has always had a higher Defense vs Melee attacks... so casting will slaughter them like Sneaky.

As for the identical crit hits 326(?) I haven't a clue, also you are using a HEAVY weapon and a lot of the posts are referring to Swords or casting... yes, I have come across this on occasions, even @ level 70+ Bush ... that defense, 0 hit frequency using LSwrd... not sure really, but even the Warhammer had similar issues.

Did not notice any Melee Immune type monsters in group ... maybe it is a defense thing for this specific Objective like Sneaky.
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I'm fighting this EP right now and it takes zero dmg unless I cast. Is this the ambush situation you are all talking about?

If this is the case, anyone on hc available to help?

This post was edited by Killer_Stride on Jan 1 2022 08:16am
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Jan 1 2022 08:18am
If he's only taking damage from casting then that's the objective soften the sneaky shell. Immune to melee. Easiest to get a caster to come in and kill it because they have a ton of health.
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