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Apr 29 2021 09:53pm
So I can finally flood the sexy drop thread without feeling guilty
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Apr 30 2021 12:09am
Quote (Newb. @ Apr 30 2021 03:30pm)
You’re taking the word average too literally my friend. The average drop thread would be for items that are average in terms of useability. A tier 3 item with 30% ee would not be average. It’s well below average in terms of useability. I understand you’re a “prof farmer” and don’t mind using shitty items but the fact of the matter is a 55 ee tier 3 item would cost 1-3 fg so why would you bother with a 30% ee item?


Not long ago, I forgot to equip items on a character starting out... so, I put a white tier I sword on it @ level 1 and started a catacomb, and I was 1 hit killing them... I mean... wtf is happening... oh I have Rank 2 in Sword, but that is only 2% EE and I am 1 hit killing them with a WHITE Tier I sword... oh my fudgesickle... this isn't happening and before you know it... I was level 5 and put on my Tier IV longsword I had in my inventory and continued further in the game.

So... yup... Tier I white weapon and 1 hit killing monsters... let us all go out and praise the changes to the game and just throw away those 30+% EE Tier III weapons.

Okay... Sarcasm aside, my post is only research, nothing less.

EDIT: OH... don't believe me... try it out for yourself, it won't kill you to do so.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Apr 30 2021 12:12am
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Apr 30 2021 12:22am
It would kill me, I can’t play the game without expansive items. Not skilled enough.
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Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ 30 Apr 2021 08:22)
It would kill me, I can’t play the game without expansive items. Not skilled enough.


Your opinion doesn't matter, you use the best lights in game!!!

This post was edited by 4ndr3as on Apr 30 2021 01:03am
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Apr 29 2021 04:59pm)
Thanks all for confirming this, and for those that wonder why I asked this question, it is based on the fact that 50% is the AVERAGE % Enhanced effect of that tier do drop... so... we may post an item in the Avg drop thread being a Tier III with 55% Enhanced effect, is actually above average for the % EE that tier would get, so to compare average... this would be 30% ee Tier III item.

It is NOT rocket science. Just logical.


Ahh I see where your confusion lies. Okay, allow me to assist.

Tier I = 10% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier II = 20% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier III = 30% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier IV = 40% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier V = 50% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier VI = 60% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier VII = 70% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier VIII = 80% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier IX = 90% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier X = 100% EE = 50% = average drop
Tier XI = 110% EE = 50% = average drop
Tier XII = 120% EE = 50% = average drop
Tier XIII = 130% EE = 50% = average drop
Tier XIV = 140% EE = 50% = average drop

:thumbsup: :)
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Quote (BWConformity @ Apr 30 2021 08:53pm)
Ahh I see where your confusion lies. Okay, allow me to assist.

Tier I = 10% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier II = 20% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier III = 30% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier IV = 40% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier V = 50% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier VI = 60% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier VII = 70% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier VIII = 80% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier IX = 90% EE = 50% = average shrine
Tier X = 100% EE = 50% = average drop
Tier XI = 110% EE = 50% = average drop
Tier XII = 120% EE = 50% = average drop
Tier XIII = 130% EE = 50% = average drop
Tier XIV = 140% EE = 50% = average drop

:thumbsup: :)


Hey... great explanation, so when a new player comes to play LS... they just shrine level 30 items down... wow... this is the best post ever.
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Apr 30 2021 03:44am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Apr 29 2021 11:09pm)
Hey... great explanation, so when a new player comes to play LS... they just shrine level 30 items down... wow... this is the best post ever.


If it's magical yeah. If it's got more properties then it'll sell as a mutable, but just low ee isn't really useful. This is for softcore though, I think maybe 140 ee lvl 55 is still sexy on hardcore? :)
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 30 Apr 2021 04:59)
Thanks all for confirming this, and for those that wonder why I asked this question, it is based on the fact that 50% is the AVERAGE % Enhanced effect of that tier do drop... so... we may post an item in the Avg drop thread being a Tier III with 55% Enhanced effect, is actually above average for the % EE that tier would get, so to compare average... this would be 30% ee Tier III item.

It is NOT rocket science. Just logical.


Well avrg regarding the amount of ee and avrg regarding the items that are getting dropped are 2 different things.

the avrg of 140ee on lvl 55 of the maximum is for sure not the avrg of all lvl 55 items that drop with the mod ee.

these numbers are not distributed evenly, which means that you will find more often 1ee than 279ee, thats for sure ;)
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Apr 30 2021 09:48am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 29 Apr 2021 19:59)
Thanks all for confirming this, and for those that wonder why I asked this question, it is based on the fact that 50% is the AVERAGE % Enhanced effect of that tier do drop... so... we may post an item in the Avg drop thread being a Tier III with 55% Enhanced effect, is actually above average for the % EE that tier would get, so to compare average... this would be 30% ee Tier III item.

It is NOT rocket science. Just logical.


This is false. A 140% Enhanced Effect t14 would not be average by your own math, as the average tier would be Legendary, as normal through unique would be 13 tiers, so tier 7 is the "average".

So in order to hit your theoretical average for the average drop thread, it'd need to be something closer to 140ee, 35st, 35dex, 35int, 7 ML, 7 CS, 700 max life. Or something similar. I believe everyone could agree that such an item is far FAR above the average, and so incredibly rare that even at that "low" ee, it'd go for many thousands of FG.

Once again, you've failed to put any real thought into your assumptions.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 30 2021 09:52am
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Apr 30 2021 01:19pm
Quote (BWConformity @ Apr 30 2021 09:44pm)
If it's magical yeah. If it's got more properties then it'll sell as a mutable, but just low ee isn't really useful. This is for softcore though, I think maybe 140 ee lvl 55 is still sexy on hardcore? :)


:D Well at least this thread got love and I got my answer... been a long time I actually posted the correct numbers. :rofl:
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