Quote (BWConformity @ Oct 1 2020 12:27pm)

Axe is a special case where it doesn't make any difference where you put the point between strength or dex. The game just uses the total combined str/dex to determine everything for axes ;)

Quote (bdan @ Oct 1 2020 11:05am)

Just make sure your str and dex are even numbers!

Game always rolls down after the decimal point :v

Quote (BWConformity @ Oct 1 2020 08:15pm)

I mean... ratio is just a way to compare how useful each stat is compared to the other. You can also think about them as percentages of str or dex translated into dmg if you prefer:

Clubs 90/10, or 9 dex = 1 str, or 0.9*str turns to dmg and 0.1*dex turns to dmg
Swords 75/25, or 3 dex = 1 str, or 0.75*str turns to dmg and 0.25*dex turns to dmg
Axes 50/50, or 1 dex = 1 str, or 0.5*str turns to dmg and 0.5*dex turns to dmg
Staves 25/75, or 1 dex = 3 str, or 0.25*str turns to dmg and 0.75*dex turns to dmg
Dagers 10/90, or 1 dex = 9 str, or 0.1*str turns to dmg and 0.9*dex turns to dmg


Edit: one interesting thing to note is that based on the testing we did with crit in discussions a year or so ago, we discovered (maybe rediscovered) that the "wrong" stat contributes to crit chance and the "correct" stat doesn't really matter for crit. So even if you aren't getting much damage out of statting dex on your club, or strength on your dagger, it really increases your crit chance ;)

Quote (Bigheaded @ Oct 1 2020 12:34pm)

I still believe this to be correct.

axes still seem to have ~10% crit rate, with swords ~2-3% with full strength and clubs ~1% with full strength. Did some testing last time i hit HH.

Still 99% sure statting strength for clubs/swords and using strength gear way outweighs the crit chance boost.

Quote (BWConformity @ Oct 1 2020 09:15pm)

I mean... ratio is just a way to compare how useful each stat is compared to the other. You can also think about them as percentages of str or dex translated into dmg if you prefer:

Clubs 90/10, or 9 dex = 1 str, or 0.9*str turns to dmg and 0.1*dex turns to dmg
Swords 75/25, or 3 dex = 1 str, or 0.75*str turns to dmg and 0.25*dex turns to dmg
Axes 50/50, or 1 dex = 1 str, or 0.5*str turns to dmg and 0.5*dex turns to dmg
Staves 25/75, or 1 dex = 3 str, or 0.25*str turns to dmg and 0.75*dex turns to dmg
Dagers 10/90, or 1 dex = 9 str, or 0.1*str turns to dmg and 0.9*dex turns to dmg


Edit: one interesting thing to note is that based on the testing we did with crit in discussions a year or so ago, we discovered (maybe rediscovered) that the "wrong" stat contributes to crit chance and the "correct" stat doesn't really matter for crit. So even if you aren't getting much damage out of statting dex on your club, or strength on your dagger, it really increases your crit chance ;)

Quote (Razo @ Oct 1 2020 01:35pm)

BWConformity for president :wub:

Quote (Vaeflare @ Oct 1 2020 11:42am)

...I just came across my first well since I started my climb. I threw in a white level five axe and this dropped on the side:

https://imgur.com/X6RteCk.png


I'm trying to use axes and I can't remember for sure, but aren't axes 50/50 ratio str/dex?
Thanks!

Quote (BWConformity @ 1 Oct 2020 21:15)

I mean... ratio is just a way to compare how useful each stat is compared to the other. You can also think about them as percentages of str or dex translated into dmg if you prefer:

Clubs 90/10, or 9 dex = 1 str, or 0.9*str turns to dmg and 0.1*dex turns to dmg
Swords 75/25, or 3 dex = 1 str, or 0.75*str turns to dmg and 0.25*dex turns to dmg
Axes 50/50, or 1 dex = 1 str, or 0.5*str turns to dmg and 0.5*dex turns to dmg
Staves 25/75, or 1 dex = 3 str, or 0.25*str turns to dmg and 0.75*dex turns to dmg
Dagers 10/90, or 1 dex = 9 str, or 0.1*str turns to dmg and 0.9*dex turns to dmg


Edit: one interesting thing to note is that based on the testing we did with crit in discussions a year or so ago, we discovered (maybe rediscovered) that the "wrong" stat contributes to crit chance and the "correct" stat doesn't really matter for crit. So even if you aren't getting much damage out of statting dex on your club, or strength on your dagger, it really increases your crit chance ;)

Quote (Meridius @ Oct 1 2020 09:32pm)

Yeah that is what Alex and I assumed too and then we tried to do the math to calculate the weapon damage. After 6h we gave up. I am not sure how the ratio come into play in the damage formula, but it is not as simple as you posted

Quote (BWConformity @ 2 Oct 2020 09:37)

Alex and I got it working though?