Sorry mate. Gonna have to disagree with you here. I'm completely biased ofc, but I love suffusencing. I actually transmute mainly to generate essences for suffusencing and I only reroll with the bad/spare essences that I don't need for suffing.

I know a lot of people don't feel this way, but I really enjoy being able to buff the hell out of the very special comfreys and glyphs I make which deserve it

When I thought of the original muting suggestion, I actually felt that my love of suffusencing made me a good person to suggest it. I knew it would be great for the community even if I was one of the few people it negatively affected in terms of the skill. I'm very happy with the muting change, even if my essences are more expensive than ever for suffusencing, and especially with the way Paul added diminishing return prof for under-level skilling. But please, for the love of God, don't take away suffusencing. That's just mean.

I get that it sounds stupid suffing with no essence from a logical POV, but the skill isn't worth doing in any way for 99% of it's progression. When you fully cook a fish, it gets buffed by 100% and that's it.

If you wanna suffuse a fish, you first need to have an essence. If you wanna have an essence, you first need to find an item to mute. If you wanna mute that item, you first need to be able to mute it.

Then after all that, you have to pray that the relic item you're muting doesn't turn into a magical essence. And even if you somehow get a mythical+ essence, then you need to pray again that it won't roll a 20%.







Yes, 1 person would be able to hit rank 20 in a few days and then the whole market of essences + fish at these levels will be gone for a few years.

That was my point exactly. The only reason this skill exists is so you can waste lower level essences for next to no gain, just so you don't have to throw them away.

It's easily noticeable, because there are only 5 people with rank 20+ in standard and 2 people with rank 15+ in hardcore. And literally every single person on both suffing ladders is someone who's a high muter, so they were just burning their leftover essences.







I knew you wouldn't like this, lol. But there you go, if this happens you won't have to mute anymore. I don't hate how the skill goes, I "hate" the fact that it's unrewarding and not worth doing for almost anyone.. besides someone like you making trophy glyphs/comfreys I guess.

Here I go with my math again: you have around 150k prof points in suffing. You get roughly 15 prof per item suffed, maybe less, so you must have suffed at least 10 k items the normal way, or even more the other way.

I know you probably have a lot of comfreys, but you're almost the only one. Still, how many of those 10 000+ items were actually comfreys and glyphs, when you keep in mind you can only suff items up to Tier V ( not included)?

I highly doubt it's more than 1k... but even if, that's just you. A vast majority of the people can't have access to so many comfreys or good enough glyphs because there just aren't any, so all of their suffing is done on 100-500 life/mana fish at most, making them 10% - 30% better. And again, it takes roughly 2-3 times longer to suffuse a single fish than to go to the pond/well and get 2-3 new fish instead.

It's not JUST the fact that the skill is too expensive, specially now, it's that it requires too much time and effort for extremely limited gain. Even if you buy the essences and/or fish, someone had to get them first so it doesn't matter who's doing the work. The proof is everywhere, the top 5 suffers have done almost no progress for the past years, because the skill becomes totally useless AND impossible to progress after around rank 20.
The change could also work like this: At lvl 0 you start with 10 - 20% bonus, as in using a magical essence. Then for example, you get a 20% bonus maximum amount for every rank up, so at rank 5, you can suffuse T1s 10 - 120%. Then the next tier starts from 10 - 20% again, and goes the same. All the tiers that are previously unlocked continue to get the 20% bonus up to a maximum of 240% or the equivalent of using a unique essence.

This post was edited by Jupiter5 on Jul 24 2020 12:33am

Bump ;d

All skills take hundreds of hours and give little reward why should this be different
I'm ok with it changing though I would love to enhance my glyphs without muting

I take full credit for the suffing change, you're welcome community!