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Feb 24 2020 12:44pm
Good to see someone got you to pay 200 fg for that 45 sword I found and sold for 60 a few weeks ago
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Feb 24 2020 12:46pm
Quote (Jupiter5 @ 24 Feb 2020 18:44)
Good to see someone got you to pay 200 fg for that 45 sword I found and sold for 60 a few weeks ago

200fg is not a big deal, I can get that fg by playing a single game on bnp
people very abusive when it comes to pricing items I see, will be more careful next time
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Feb 24 2020 12:50pm
Quote (Meliodas @ 24 Feb 2020 19:46)
200fg is not a big deal, I can get that fg by playing a single game on bnp
people very abusive when it comes to pricing items I see, will be more careful next time


Just like in every game some people tries to buy low and sell high so its always best to make a price check topic if you are not sure !
Also you can add item ids to see item history to get an idea.. usually it wont mean anything as the person possibly bought more items to get a bulk trade price or maybe prices changed but yeah.. sometimes its usefull - it would been in this case forexample.
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Feb 24 2020 12:54pm
Quote (pwb3 @ Feb 24 2020 01:30pm)
Don't bother. The game is full of really horrible people. Just see here for example.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82701107&f=272&o=60
All I did was make a small suggestion - I wasn't looking for trouble - but it enraged a lot of people, especially Ttim. They got into a big hissy fit.

There are better games out there, with really nice people. A lot more players, too. This game has on average 40 people playing a day.



Bob scams.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=78661829&f=250

And also he called me a faggot. He most definitely isn't a "good dude."



He countered your arguments

And you didn’t like it.

Just because Somone does not agree with you does not mean you have to go and make a general thread to mods.

I would hate to have to know you in real life if you act this way there aswell.

Not everyone will agree with what you think and that is fine. It’s the way the world works
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Feb 24 2020 01:00pm
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Feb 24 2020 01:23pm
Quote (Bachelor @ Feb 24 2020 06:00pm)
I suggest starting out this way as for understanding casting is more of a challenge for new people

Yes there is a discord and there is a channel that some are in.
Most guilds personally have their own discord and run together everyday cause they have a routine set such as Unfair Advantage and they play everyday at the same time.

TANKING IN THE GAME
Normaly axes are good for tanks but after you pass your character to samurai you can't use them anymore so I prefer to do a sword set HOWEVER its yours choice what you would like to start with.
So we talk about two aspects: physical defense and magical defense.


complete bollox. Weapons do not make a difference. imo axes are the worst to suggest as unusable by samurai and cost a tonne. Clubs would be significantly superior simply because you can attempt to get a high EE one cheaply.

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You have two ways to higher your magical defense: getting armors that have high magical defense and enhanced effect ( leathers/scales/chains ) are what is preferred by everyone.

GEAR

You swap gear and weapon every 10 levels so you will purchase level 0/5/10/15/25/35/45/55 weapons,armors,charms and the master quest is at level 71 which you will achieve with your 55 gear.

Point is you will be getting only Enhanced Effect Armors, & Swords to start out as a fighter doing melee tanking

A good example of a nice charm that can get you to master quest can be: +30 strength charm :thumbsup:
Your accessory charm will be 100+ EE Focused Heals

Enhanced Effect, Increases damage of a weapon

Enhance Effect, is the main focus for melee weapons however in groups if your not tanking you can use STR stat robes or Dex and sit in the back row depending on your weapon of choice.


Increasing intelligence will also increase magic defense but this isn't an option really.

For a player with 10k fg, a level 50-55 40 str charm is only ~100 fg, so unsure why you're suggesting 30 str. I'd personally be recommending the 49 str one someone is selling, shouldnt cost more than 1.5 and possibly as little as 1.2

Problem is at this moment in time, is everyone is ISO swords, so getting your hands on a full set isn't necessarily going to be easy, main issue right now is getting hold of any MQ weapon. The 144ee dagger for 4k available is standard dagger cost which has only gone up in the past 2 years.
This theoretically would do for both Rogue and samurai so you'd only need to hunt for the next MQ weapon at paladin, then use the dagger for monk/ninja.




What are you expecting to get out of the game?
If you're in it for FG, then purchase a full staff or club set, these are the cheapest weapons because they're usable by the fewest amount of useful classes (daggers/axes are most expensive, swords somewhere in between).
The issue with staffs is also being forced to buy scales/leathers which are also the most expensive tank armors, whilst chain/plate do the job fine for solo purposes.
You would then do nothing but do explore climbs and hunt for items on the first class available, i often climb as barb as i've got decent clubs/heavy armors.
Getting the best MQ gear is going to speed up your climbs the most, having a good level 20 weapon which costs 1k is pointless as it'll only do till level 25/30 and a similar one with 30ee less will cost ~100fg and do the job in a similar time, whilst 30ee on a MQ weapon is going to shave off hours off the climb.

If you're in it to complete a tonne of MQ's in groups,
you either want a sword + stuff set or a dagger + axe set. This will cover you until you reach warlock where you'll want a cast set also, if you happened to go daggers/axes your set for HH also. Can replace axes with clubs but not seen many clubs for sale above level 35 these days.
Also I believe Strip will pay you a little bit for the MQ's.


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Feb 24 2020 01:33pm
Quote (mclarke @ Feb 24 2020 11:23am)
complete bollox. Weapons do not make a difference. imo axes are the worst to suggest as unusable by samurai and cost a tonne. Clubs would be significantly superior simply because you can attempt to get a high EE one cheaply.



Increasing intelligence will also increase magic defense but this isn't an option really.

For a player with 10k fg, a level 50-55 40 str charm is only ~100 fg, so unsure why you're suggesting 30 str. I'd personally be recommending the 49 str one someone is selling, shouldnt cost more than 1.5 and possibly as little as 1.2

Problem is at this moment in time, is everyone is ISO swords, so getting your hands on a full set isn't necessarily going to be easy, main issue right now is getting hold of any MQ weapon. The 144ee dagger for 4k available is standard dagger cost which has only gone up in the past 2 years.
This theoretically would do for both Rogue and samurai so you'd only need to hunt for the next MQ weapon at paladin, then use the dagger for monk/ninja.




What are you expecting to get out of the game?
If you're in it for FG, then purchase a full staff or club set, these are the cheapest weapons because they're usable by the fewest amount of useful classes (daggers/axes are most expensive, swords somewhere in between).
The issue with staffs is also being forced to buy scales/leathers which are also the most expensive tank armors, whilst chain/plate do the job fine for solo purposes.
You would then do nothing but do explore climbs and hunt for items on the first class available, i often climb as barb as i've got decent clubs/heavy armors.
Getting the best MQ gear is going to speed up your climbs the most, having a good level 20 weapon which costs 1k is pointless as it'll only do till level 25/30 and a similar one with 30ee less will cost ~100fg and do the job in a similar time, whilst 30ee on a MQ weapon is going to shave off hours off the climb.

If you're in it to complete a tonne of MQ's in groups,
you either want a sword + stuff set or a dagger + axe set. This will cover you until you reach warlock where you'll want a cast set also, if you happened to go daggers/axes your set for HH also. Can replace axes with clubs but not seen many clubs for sale above level 35 these days.
Also I believe Strip will pay you a little bit for the MQ's.


I'm going based off the guides that the community was given and what I have read ;)
I'm going based off the items currently on market place truthfully and advising them that they do not need to spend massive amounts of forum gold for a decent quick climb.
As you see right here TODAY I grabbed a Level 55 temporary sword with 80+ EE for 100.00 FG for a guild member once he starts climbing.
https://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/itemHistory.php?i=5026523&c=0

There is 35+Strength charm on marketplace for 20-50 forum gold so I am suggesting this because it is the cheaper route for what he is wanting.

I have explained that having the best gear speeds up the climbs but its going to take investing first, patience time and dedication to the game :)

This post was edited by Bachelor on Feb 24 2020 01:34pm
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Feb 24 2020 01:44pm
Invest the biggest amount in your MQ gear and less in the levels before

get swords for level 0-5-10-15-20-25-35-45-55
get ee plates/chains level 0-5-10-15-25-35-45-55
get str charms

this is the best setup for a beginner

If you hit monk pretty fast you can either reroll, play a new character or decide if you want to transition into axe/dagger like everyone else
you could get staffs as a temp for monk and buy dex gear you can use later with axes + daggers if you still want to transition

if you hit WL you should have played some time and can buy casting gear

don't go for ee scales/leather as they are only usefull if you want to tank on HH, otherwise you can get better heavy armors for the same fg
As HH is not unlocked by many people such a investment early on is not very smart
Go for HH specfic gear ony when you hit it.

This post was edited by Meridius on Feb 24 2020 01:44pm
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Feb 24 2020 03:31pm
Quote (slushslush @ Feb 24 2020 10:54am)
He countered your arguments

And you didn’t like it.

Just because Somone does not agree with you does not mean you have to go and make a general thread to mods.

I would hate to have to know you in real life if you act this way there aswell.

Not everyone will agree with what you think and that is fine. It’s the way the world works


I certainly haven't responded to him or anyone else rudely.

You can counter another's argument politely and respectfully. He most certainly did not.

He has been extremely rude and aggressive and hateful throughout my thread, and thanks to him it's ruined.

I definitely do accept the fact that not everyone in the world has to think the same way, and I am totally fine with that. But being rude and hateful is definitely not necessary.
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Feb 24 2020 03:32pm
Quote (pwb3 @ 24 Feb 2020 22:31)
I certainly haven't responded to him or anyone else rudely.

You can counter another's argument politely and respectfully. He most certainly did not.

He has been extremely rude and aggressive and hateful throughout my thread, and thanks to him it's ruined.

I definitely do accept the fact that not everyone in the world has to think the same way, and I am totally fine with that. But being rude and hateful is definitely not necessary.


Please keep your personal arguments to pm
This is not the place to keep going, thanks

same for ^slushslush and ^ttim

This post was edited by Meridius on Feb 24 2020 03:35pm
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