+1 on this idea

Agree with PowerTripped. As for the rest of this topic, this topic is a prime reason why most threads devolve into spam

I like Powertrippeds' opinion, that is another option, just increasing the spawn rate.
I read in another thread you can manipulate some by using maps with Evil Presence.

I would like to balance Dexterity & Strength rewards. Say with 2 minor changes;
1. Bits & Pieces gives Strength reward of 5-10 instead of Dexterity 2-4.
2. No Maze No More gives the 7-15 Strength as well as 7-15 Dexterity

This balances it, and also makes No Maze No More a bit more appealing to do since drop quality / quantity was changed.

Whether it happens or not, at least it is out there to ponder over.

like NMNM is so easy to spawn, like has anyone spawned it over the last year ? i know a few sc guys was trying for the longest time to spawn it. i dont think they had any succes. and it is def not the statspoints that is appealing with that quest. lol.

what is balanced in changin the given stats in bits from 2-4 dex to 5-10 str ? just another hc cry idea " we want more free, cuz hardcore is so hard "



As i said before, if the idea you get takes longer to write down, than to come up with, then just dismiss it. can also help you alot irl

This post was edited by TTim on Feb 12 2019 10:28am

I spawned nmnm last year

+1 for better spawn rate for objectives

Since this is on topic (well most), it is easier to respond to.

NMNM. Create a mule that has that objective ready @ level 55, this is how we did it on Hardcore, Datis would make game with this mule, I would enter with my Monk or Ninja and solo hunt for NMNM, once they appear (roughly after 60% of catacomb completion, I would msg them to join, then we would all kill them for the drops.

It is easy as pie, we started doing this all the time on HC, how come it is so hard for SC to do it this way? Or is it just your opinion that they can't?

The idea of balancing Strength / Dexterity is simple... the key word is BALANCE for the purpose of people that use like Swords, clubs, Longsword and Warhammers... axes and battleaxes gain either way, whether it be dexterity or strength, at the moment it gives more reward towards Dagger, Staff, Polearms and Spears... hence BALANCE. If you can not see the simple things and only think about core this, core that, then you have the wrong impression.

Thanks for keeping on topic.

You probably still can spawn it that way but because people were farming it like that the drops got nerfed from my understanding.

Meridius was testing crit on his swords, and it seemed to be the case that if he had a good portion of dex he would have an overall higher crit chance, wich could indicate that dex is actually pretty good for strenghtbased weapons.. so changing it, wouldnt balance anything, it would actually only remove bonus´s for some weapons.

for the nmnm, i find it hilarious that you claim it is this ez, and yet you dont have a 55 character ready for NMNM spawn.. i think Ant is right, it has been nerf´d in spawn and drop rate, since people were abusing it.


again, bad bad surgestion from you, i wish you would stop

You are right, it did get a major nerf because of farming... my response was based on my previous post (#13) that got quoted, that the reward could be changed for NMNM to give 7-15 to Strength & Dexterity.



Myself, Meridius and BWComformity have been doing the same tests, it seems that way for now, but, we have not yet confirmed that the amount of dexterity is worthwhile when reducing the DAMAGE output. I have tested Longswords and Battleaxes for now, I will be testing Poleams and Spears later on, you can read about all the tests in BWComformitys' thread.

Because you haven't been here for long, you wouldn't know who Datis is, and it seems you did not read my post properly, as I said... "Datis would make game with his mule" and I would join with my Monk or Ninja (at present, I don't have one, I used to have 3 monks and 2 Ninjas last season). You can laugh all you like, it doesn't make my statement false at all, considering I have been away from the game for over 18 months before returning because of the last update.

There is no "I think Ant is right, it got nerfed because it was abused"... it DID get nerfed, there is no doubt about it.



Myself, matt, jesse, buf helped get Datis's mule complete all but NMNM objective. It is easy as pie, and I was the character hunting down NMNM, so I was doing my part... again, easy as pie. I don't need your respect I have theirs.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Feb 12 2019 11:37am

So you claim it was easy, yet you were not the guy doing the work, you were just a leech, who was a +1 from another guys hard grind ? i dont respect that


Make NMNM toon, come back and tell me again it is easy