Not saying he is incorrect, his reference to my post was. My post was amount of prof point total.. so;

1 character to reach Rank 4 = 10,000 prof point total. Multiply this by 16 characters is 160,000 prof points.
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This is where you are both coming from, and as I stated above, not saying it is incorrect.

It would take approximately 320 hours of game play whistling. (Guessing your statement of 1 hour was to Master Quest in a group climb?)

Now, since I play solo, I would gain more prof points. So, we do it this way, from level 1 to 71 (feeder), I would kill a MAX of 7,000 monsters.
So, by that number, I should be able to get to Rank 2 from Rank 0 easy, considering there is potential to get 3,500 prof points including 1 hit kill,
and other factors like 2% experience gain for roughly 33% of normal monsters killed (reducing 7,000 to 5,000 monster kills) and healing actions.

It takes me around 10 hours minimum to get to level 71, so in reference to TIME, it would be around 350 prof points per hour based on 7,000 monster kills, not 5,000.
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Looks like a little balance for group play and prof gain vs solo. Don't go in to welling either please, thanks.
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I can NOT believe that every single post has NOTHING to do with the topic, and it all stated at #2 Post.


EDIT: Actually my calculations are off, I based all of that information around Rank 1 which was the initial factor, so, for 1000 prof points, you are both saying that it takes 1 hour to gain 500 prof points whistling... so rank 2 would mean you would play around 4 hours, rank 3 = 6 hours.

Oh well, the higher the rank, the longer it takes right. Not including the diminishing return of not being able to gain any prof points for levels under your rank.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 31 2019 12:56am

I said at least
You actually can get way more, but it depends on your actions

For example I get around 800 points per climb in fire prof with around 4500 actions and I am rank 21

This post was edited by Meridius on Jan 31 2019 01:40am

Not saying you are incorrect, I used to be a prof hunter and used every little trick to improve my prof count per climb when I used to play my Rank 22 Sword on Softcore, that character also got to Rank 10 Sword before I even did my first ever Master Quest.

I used to use +Max Life items from level 23 upwards and 0 Enhanced Effect weapon (change to killing gear when I gained all 10 prof points per wave). At higher levels, it was pointless to use +Max Life items, change armor to Int increase healing... or EE armor to stay longer and so fourth. (YES, damn time consuming compared to updates since then)

Basically I would gain the maximum of 10 prof points per wave (either weapon, heal or combo of both).

Now with two(2) extra levels per unlocked, it is easier to gain those 10 max prof points per wave.

Whistle is still faster than solo for prof because you get more per time spent

Below is not a debate about how you came to your conclusion, it is another way at looking how one can gain more prof points more effectively... NOT time based at all.

If you can 1 hit kill monsters from level 1 to level 40 whistling (SOLO), you have the chance to gain 4000 prof points.
ONLY IF: each monster gives 1% experience on the experience bar AND (most importantly) each kill gives you the 1 prof point.
In your case of Rank 21, you only gain prof points from level 22, so in this scenario you could gain 1,800 prof points by level 40.

Is your statement of whistling gaining more prof points per time spent based on a full group climb from level 1 to Master Quest in an hour?
In your previous statement you say you gain around 800 prof points per 4500 actions (based on a 1 hour full group climb)
Now, another question, can you get to level 40 solo whistling in an hour? If so, then maybe you will get more prof points than a full group.

HC climbs dont take an hour... Nobody with gear good enough for that still plays actively enough to achieve those times. 200ee items arent a dime a dozen here and additional vit is required... Besides Rex hasnt been a group player in ages.

Also I got rank 1 baxe prof in just 2 climbs 1-40 using them in group.

This post was edited by Cheeya on Jan 31 2019 07:55am

the first part is utterly bullshit

you just need 2 Wl with 180ee~ mq charms and 3 other people with 100ee+ weapons to hit 1 hour climbs in whistle
I do this basically every climb these days and have at least 2 people in it with crap gear and actions
There is no massiv vita required at all. We do it daily in SC with 35vita back row to 85 without dying.

If people got much vita and you dont click at all, yes than it take longer than 1h, but you have the gear and ppl in hc to do better. You just play the game wrong. Maybe you should get some SC gear and let ppl show you how to do climbing fast in a proper way.

If you dont believe me, just check the gear of jupiter5 (Zombie). He has average gear at best, but is always the top performer in group or close to the top performer

Cheeya owned again, i hope this guy realize soon that he should keep his mouth shut..


Spot on Mathias,

Whistle climbs blow, when you explore you always add a little vita because of the nature of the game. Accidents, lag and things happen. Nobody wants to RIP a character worth alot of time and fg
We did 1.4 hour climbs all the time its not hard, 1 hour was more rare because people dont click the same. Its so rare to see a hc climb u have to do whst the majority wants

Alright lets go in order...

1. considering the fact that HC has a total of 3 warlock that even play, Godo, Ryan, and Jacob... Of those only Jacob has a schedule that allows him play groups regularly. So right there you proved my point that HC doesnt have the people to do 1hr climbs
2. 3x other people with 100ee+ gear... in the last 2-3 weeks the only people that have run full grou climbs on HC are, Myself, 420cooklover (BLC), SpankyHaze, Spankysgirl, Winsomedoh, Kot and Jedimagi..... so basically you are telling me to get all but 1 active HC player. Shouldnt be too hard..
3a. Gear on SC compared to HC are leaps and bounds ahead thus allowing you to play with less vit. When you have 40+int more on your MQ gear and heals with 50ee+ or more on them its going to make it easier to complete fast climbs. Thats not even including the 30-60 stats you get from not statting vit because deaths mean nothing.
3b. If for some reason something DID go wrong and 35 vit wasnt enough you start back in town with slightly less prof... WE FUCKING DIE. You can risk a death like that because jack shit happens if you fuck up. We arent running a risk when all it takes is the healer or tank d/cing and/or a little lag to cause someone to lose everything. IF i had nothing to lose id play stupid low vit too.



Shut the fuck up scrub.



Nah bud even running with Adam and ryan our whistle climbs recently had been 1.5hrs+ There have been a total of 0x 1hr climbs on HC since the increased MQ level. Maybe if you came back too Adam, Ryan, Jacob, You and myself might be able to whistle to mq that fast... Good luck getting adam and ryan on at the same time though. Timezones are too far off.

This post was edited by Cheeya on Jan 31 2019 10:05am