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All the spears listed for Maxono belong to Derdrops and the B.I.G. 260 ee spear belongs to thegopher
There are many of these sort of errors. Which is why before the list died last time I made the suggestion to scrape the owners. To also relieve them of constant spam pming from those wanting to own B.I.G. items.

Edit- The others I didn't lists ex: BIG 55 sword belong to people who I know wouldn't want their names added.

This post was edited by PhiRip on Dec 3 2018 09:43am
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Quote (PhiRip @ 3 Dec 2018 16:40)
All the spears listed for Maxono belong to Derdrops and the B.I.G. 260 ee spear belongs to thegopher
There are many of these sort of errors. Which is why before the list died last time I made the suggestion to scrape the owners. To also relieve them of constant spam pming from those wanting to own B.I.G. items.

Edit- The others I didn't lists ex: BIG 55 sword belong to people who I know wouldn't want their names added.


Fixed the errors, thx!
I understand your point.. i got tons of sick items and some BiG items as well.. but it is not like i am getting pms about selling any items every day ^^ The info is not really secret and the accounts are public as well
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Quote (ahs_darkhunter @ Dec 3 2018 10:49am)
Fixed the errors, thx!
I understand your point.. i got tons of sick items and some BiG items as well.. but it is not like i am getting pms about selling any items every day ^^ The info is not really secret and the accounts are public as well


The item links made me curious how you'd get the links for well known BIG items when they are sitting in vaults for months? The item links are a must, yes?
A lot of previous big lists cant be added to this one because getting some of the item links are impossible due to afk vaulters.
I like the top 3 idea though. I remember trying for that when we put together the HC list from scratch.

I understand people aren't going to PM everyday, but look at it like thise 50 players are looking for gear. About half of them are looking for top tier gear. By the time some of the longer afk players come back they can expect 25 new pms asking about their items. This also creates a disadvantage for those other players who spent days/weeks/months/years searching and searching for some of these items and makes them more accessible to those who made little or no effort. I deleted all my previous lists of afk gear that I had saved for years so I don't care either way.

I think a best in game list is an amazing idea to show other players whats out there (top 3 out there is even better) and how their current items compete to the best that possible, but I think added the owners is a mistake and hindered all previous versions of the best in game list as well. Which is one reason among many it was taken out from the public (when UA had the best Unfair Advantage :P )
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Quote (PhiRip @ 3 Dec 2018 16:40)
All the spears listed for Maxono belong to Derdrops and the B.I.G. 260 ee spear belongs to thegopher
There are many of these sort of errors. Which is why before the list died last time I made the suggestion to scrape the owners. To also relieve them of constant spam pming from those wanting to own B.I.G. items.

Edit- The others I didn't lists ex: BIG 55 sword belong to people who I know wouldn't want their names added.


account name is NOT mandatory!
if you are listed with your account name and want to be anonymous, please PM any of the mods and the owner ID will be replaced as anonymous!

Quote (PhiRip @ 3 Dec 2018 17:04)
The item links made me curious how you'd get the links for well known BIG items when they are sitting in vaults for months? The item links are a must, yes?
A lot of previous big lists cant be added to this one because getting some of the item links are impossible due to afk vaulters.
I like the top 3 idea though. I remember trying for that when we put together the HC list from scratch.

I understand people aren't going to PM everyday, but look at it like thise 50 players are looking for gear. About half of them are looking for top tier gear. By the time some of the longer afk players come back they can expect 25 new pms asking about their items. This also creates a disadvantage for those other players who spent days/weeks/months/years searching and searching for some of these items and makes them more accessible to those who made little or no effort. I deleted all my previous lists of afk gear that I had saved for years so I don't care either way.

I think a best in game list is an amazing idea to show other players whats out there (top 3 out there is even better) and how their current items compete to the best that possible, but I think added the owners is a mistake and hindered all previous versions of the best in game list as well. Which is one reason among many it was taken out from the public (when UA had the best Unfair Advantage :P )


history link is a must have. Otherwise you can post whatever stats you want without needing to prove it. No history link = no entry
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Hard to read on phone boooo :( hehe
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Quote (Meridius @ Dec 3 2018 12:10pm)
account name is NOTmandatory!
if you are listed with your account name and want to be anonymous, please PM any of the mods and the owner ID will be replaced as anonymous!



history link is a must have. Otherwise you can post whatever stats you want without needing to prove it. No history link = no entry


not every item has been bought or sold on the market

Take this dagger for instance, (i dont know if its a top tier V dagger)

Rare steel dagger
Level Req: 10
Damage: 87 to 152

+100% Enhanced Effect
+20 Dexterity

Has never hit the market and therefore you cannot link it
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Quote (Meridius @ Dec 3 2018 06:10am)
account name is NOTmandatory!
if you are listed with your account name and want to be anonymous, please PM any of the mods and the owner ID will be replaced as anonymous!



history link is a must have. Otherwise you can post whatever stats you want without needing to prove it. No history link = no entry


This looks great! I love that you excluded int from ee heal charms... I feel like that was causing people to look for a usually useless stat just to have the “best” in the past list.

I see that right now all ee armors count vit and int as 0.5 ee each... I feel like this makes great sense for medium armors which are more balanced but doesn’t really make sense for armors further from the center of the spectrum, especially on something like a plate which will gain almost nothing defensively from int, and will gain a lot more from vit than 0.5 at the highest ees... anyway, no problem if this will be changed. It’s also fairly difficult to figure out what these numbers might be, so forgive me if I was just looking at a placeholder.

One thing I’m concerned about is item link needed... for two reasons... 1) if the item has never been bought/sold before can it not be entered into the list? Maybe if the owner contacts one of the 3 admins and puts the item on a char for them to retrieve the item link, even if the item has no history it can still be entered? That should prevent people from making up any stats. 2) item link doesn’t necessarily update if when an item is gone... at least not in a reasonable time frame... here is some evidence of that: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75249745&f=272&o=0
That item has been gone since Nov 2016, but the link still works.

Anyway, this looks like it’s gonna be freaking awesome. Can’t wait, and thank you for all the hard work!!! :hail:

This post was edited by BWConformity on Dec 3 2018 11:24am
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Quote (Juston @ 3 Dec 2018 18:24)
not every item has been bought or sold on the market

Take this dagger for instance, (i dont know if its a top tier V dagger)

Rare steel dagger
Level Req: 10
Damage: 87 to 152

+100% Enhanced Effect
+20 Dexterity

Has never hit the market and therefore you cannot link it


That items still have a Item ID, it just doesnt have a history, but im sure it's a top 3 at least
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Dec 3 2018 11:51am
Magical heal III
Heals: 15 to 41
Mana Cost: 21

+74% Enhanced Effect

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?c=3&i=994957&p=511997

I bet yall jelly
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Quote (BWConformity @ 3 Dec 2018 18:24)
This looks great! I love that you excluded int from ee heal charms... I feel like that was causing people to look for a usually useless stat just to have the “best” in the past list.

I see that right now all ee armors count vit and int as 0.5 ee each... I feel like this makes great sense for medium armors which are more balanced but doesn’t really make sense for armors further from the center of the spectrum, especially on something like a plate which will gain almost nothing defensively from int, and will gain a lot more from vit than 0.5 at the highest ees... anyway, no problem if this will be changed. It’s also fairly difficult to figure out what these numbers might be, so forgive me if I was just looking at a placeholder.

One thing I’m concerned about is item link needed... for two reasons... 1) if the item has never been bought/sold before can it not be entered into the list? Maybe if the owner contacts one of the 3 admins and puts the item on a char for them to retrieve the item link, even if the item has no history it can still be entered? That should prevent people from making up any stats. 2) item link doesn’t necessarily update if when an item is gone... at least not in a reasonable time frame... here is some evidence of that: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75249745&f=272&o=0
That item has been gone since Nov 2016, but the link still works.

Anyway, this looks like it’s gonna be freaking awesome. Can’t wait, and thank you for all the hard work!!! :hail:


we can adjust the rating for vita/int on armors, actually I forgot to ask about that. I probably make a new thread to discuss that. Thanks for pointing out!
Well the history link is the only way we have yet to prove an item exists. There may be a few items that are destroyed with valid and existing history link, but the list is open to everyone, so community needs to step in and point that out
if you got an item without a valid link since it hasnt been traded, just put it on a toon and pm any of the list editors to take a look

as we are the only 3 ppl able to edit and 2 have TT in this forum there shouldn't be any problems at all. But still community should prevent bad intentions from single persons

Quote (Juston @ 3 Dec 2018 18:24)
not every item has been bought or sold on the market

Take this dagger for instance, (i dont know if its a top tier V dagger)

Rare steel dagger
Level Req: 10
Damage: 87 to 152

+100% Enhanced Effect
+20 Dexterity

Has never hit the market and therefore you cannot link it


we will still add the link, but we'll make a note that this item has never been sold/traded yet

Quote (slushslush @ 3 Dec 2018 17:55)
Hard to read on phone boooo :( hehe


i am sorry slush, if you have a better idea for using another open tool other than google docs lmk :(


like that:


for broken links but existing items

This post was edited by Meridius on Dec 3 2018 11:58am
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