ThAnks for speaking with know

Who is that?

The most important muter you could say is the one who has been active, continues to be active and mutes. It's also the highest or one of the highest.


The most active muter + highest is neverdies and he was completely in favor of the change. Neverdies has muted many good items over the years of which a lot of us use.

This post was edited by Bob888 on Nov 6 2018 10:11am

I figure I’d link the topics to my muting suggestion:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=78682079&f=272&o=0
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=78738053&f=272&o=125

There was a general consensus of yes between muters but it was not unanimous by any means. If I recall correctly, it was low-ki, McClain, and dude_727 who were the main muters who publicly stated that they were not in favor of the change. The 2nd poll which was supposed to be voted on only by active muters was no doubt voted on by trolls and non-muters... however, I’m convinced that there were also other active muters who voted no but never posted that because they didn’t want to be persecuted for their opinion. I don’t blame them for not speaking publicly, since the few people who did were personally attacked by those who badly wanted the change. Ultimately Paul decided (correctly) that there was not enough of a consensus to make this change, but I had this idea and made this poll before the updates that Paul made to Ladder Slasher.

The main reason for this change was to breathe new life in the game with the least amount of coding effort, and Paul went to extreme lengths and created much more than a simple change like the one I was suggesting. It is possible that this or a new version of my suggestion could be re-evaluated positively in the future. But in that future I really hope that instead of attacking each other for having different opinions, we will “be awesome to each other. And... party on dudes!”

The problem is the relationchip between time and results. Its not possible to mute medium items. And if you roll a high item you need tonnes of time wich means month or a year.
Perhaps paul did not check the droprate on muted items?
dont know
but how it is now its terrible

Just out of curiosity... this update allowing ML to create overspawns has proved that ML works on rerolling for muting. Have you been using ML when you mute? With the amount that you do... I would guess that it would have a big impact over time

I will test it with ml

you can drop overspawns with muting

more testing now

Correct, GL!

but after little bit of testing arround 200 essences on tier 3 tier 12 and tier 8 my opinion is:
there was a change before an update come years before. its very very hard now to mute something good
dont know weather paul dont want that muters have an advantage but the quote to mute something good is not normal in my opinion

well you are 1 single person muting, but there are like 40+ players daily playing
Imo the chances for muting good gear is not smaller, just the sample size
But getting more ppl to mute if it takes literally years to do anything lvl30+ (where is becomes interesing), will be rather hard