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Oct 4 2018 05:08am
Quote (MrRaven @ Oct 4 2018 07:14am)
Can you address the main point that makes this feature useful: "The slasher community is very small and sometimes its hard to overlap online times." Because what you're saying is very, very difficult in this tiny community sometimes with people in wildly different timezones / playtimes.



Establish a mutual time when you are both available.
This can easily be achieved by using PM's

Use the tools and communication avenues available via jsp and LS, and you will be amazed how simple it is to get a trade done

Oh -- another communication channel may be available via Discord, for example (and others, as well)
This provides you with another amazing tool you can use -- you can actually TALK to each other!!!
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Oct 4 2018 05:21am
Quote (Paparick @ Oct 4 2018 07:08am)
Establish a mutual time when you are both available.


Wait, this is your answer to people being in different time zones and possibly being asleep during the few hours someone else might be on d2jsp? Thanks for the patronizing tutorial on communication, btw.

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Oct 4 2018 05:28am
Quote (MrRaven @ Oct 4 2018 08:21am)
Wait, this is your answer to people being in different time zones and possibly being asleep during the few hours someone else might be on d2jsp? Thanks for the patronizing tutorial on communication, btw.


I regularly have same-time contacts with players in Europe, Asia, Australia, North and South America
Maybe I have a slight advantage by being between the applicable time-zones (In Canada),
but it is not an insurmountable issue to establish a common on-line time if you set your mind to it
Grow up and stop demanding that everything be handed to you on a silver platter
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Oct 4 2018 05:45am
Quote (Paparick @ Oct 4 2018 07:28am)
Grow up and stop demanding that everything be handed to you on a silver platter


This is such a strange attitude. Is hostility the official policy toward feature requests? Should people not suggest features that would improve the game for some just because it's possible to live without improvements?

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Oct 4 2018 05:46am
Quote (MrRaven @ 4 Oct 2018 05:21)
Wait, this is your answer to people being in different time zones and possibly being asleep during the few hours someone else might be on d2jsp? Thanks for the patronizing tutorial on communication, btw.


wait... you cant make an effort to log in for 30 seconds outside your normal play time to make a trade quick? Dont have friends that would be willing to pick up the item? Do you even really want it then?

Voted no... remove the 1 week timer on items on the market. Only change to trading that needs to be made.
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Oct 4 2018 05:58am
This would make it EXTREMELY easy to sell expensive items vs 1 fg to avoid fees with no risk of sniping. Therefore voting no.
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Oct 4 2018 06:00am
Quote (Cheeya @ Oct 4 2018 07:46am)
wait... you cant make an effort to log in for 30 seconds outside your normal play time to make a trade quick?


If one person sleeps 7-8 hours per night and the other person regularly plays for a few hours during that time, what you're suggesting isn't very simple.

Quote (Cheeya @ Oct 4 2018 07:46am)
Dont have friends that would be willing to pick up the item? Do you even really want it then?


This feature would remove any kind of weird workaround like that. Which sounds great. Convenience is a good thing. Accessibility in a game is a good thing. Removing roadblocks for people to enjoy a game more is a good thing. The attitude of parts of this community that resist improvements is very, very confusing.

Edit: enjoy your game and your "grown up" administrators, folks. This isn't the game for me, obviously.

This post was edited by MrRaven on Oct 4 2018 06:10am
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Oct 4 2018 06:04am
Quote (Paparick @ 4 Oct 2018 13:08)
Establish a mutual time when you are both available.
This can easily be achieved by using PM's

Use the tools and communication avenues available via jsp and LS, and you will be amazed how simple it is to get a trade done

Oh -- another communication channel may be available via Discord, for example (and others, as well)
This provides you with another amazing tool you can use -- you can actually TALK to each other!!!


even if a trade is fixed in a trade topic, an item cans till be sniped from the MP.
This happened not only once in the past. The only secure way of trading is with vault and a mediator holding the fg and that needs one of the traders to leave their guild.

Nice system we got there

Quote (hasteful @ 4 Oct 2018 13:58)
This would make it EXTREMELY easy to sell expensive items vs 1 fg to avoid fees with no risk of sniping. Therefore voting no.


yeah becasue fees make so much sense. They prevent that you store items over the MP, but thats it basically. Otherwise they are just a fg sink so you buy more fg to buy your items
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Oct 4 2018 06:23am
Pretty useful for trading eu -> us 12h difference can be a pain sometimes...
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Oct 4 2018 06:34am
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OMFG... really, how fucked are you guys arguing about timezones and the availability of a person getting online to trade a fucking item:

Yes I am talking to Rick / Cheeya and McDavid (dickwad)

Fucking think about other factors of life... shit, David Wilson (buf) and even Vicki would crawl out of their graves to kick some fucking sense into your stupid debate.

A person has a fucking heart attack and ends up in Hospital and has no access to getting online for 2-8 days... how the fuck does 30 seconds of their time to get onto LS to make a fucking trade come into the equation... can you imbeciles get a fucking braincell... the idea is sound... my previous post... read the fucking thing even it you think it is tl;dr.

Quote (izParagonzi @ Oct 5 2018 12:04am)
The idea is sound, the pro's outweigh the con's, as long as it is used correctly.

Timezone is a major flaw in the game that can NOT be programmed into the game mechanics, thus this idea has the best merit.
Also, this idea can implement trades that have been confirmed in the trading forums: i.e. Rick trades 150ee lvl 25 Axe BIN set @ 250 fg / Alex BIN lvl 25 Axe @ 250 fg / Rick: Put on Private Trade @ 250fg (Note: same expiry time as Marketplace)

Now, this is where things can get interesting, IF Alex does NOT purchase the item within the timeframe, the FEE is deducted from HIM and returned to Rick... if Alex does NOT have the fees to compensate Rick, then his fg funds are in the negative, BUT, Rick pays the fee excluding what little fg Alex may have had.

There is also another factor that Paul could implement, when trading using the Private Trade function, fees are doubled, now with that, he can exceed the time limit before expiry and also increase it from 20 items to 40 items.

As for Package deals, you would have to place all items into it like a vault and set the fg amount vs those items.... hard to explain this, but I know people will figure it out.

Vote: Yes


Quote (hasteful @ Oct 5 2018 12:58am)
This would make it EXTREMELY easy to sell expensive items vs 1 fg to avoid fees with no risk of sniping. Therefore voting no.


Really... use the trading forums and try this trick... it would not be abused if these rules were applied.
And, if Paul comes up with some way to ensure that the trade post and the Private Trade rules combined applied during trade, then you will NOT be able to trade at 1 fg item

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Oct 4 2018 06:39am
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