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Jun 2 2017 05:41am
Quote (Gearic @ Jun 2 2017 05:15am)
I was recently told to seek a mentor instead of asking actual questions, because apparently asking questions about how the game works floods the forum.

I can't imagine this being considered more useful.


Don't be a sassy sally ;)

Rex doesn't listen either :p just keep posting your questions and ignore the negative Nancy's. You are doing just fine.
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You also dont always get 1% xp per monster in a full group when you have a higher class driving
Im sure if we used a very good group with the best gear, we might get the driver (feeder + xp gear) to mq maybe in 15-18min somewhere.

But this is pretty much only posible when you have 4x warlocks and 1 melee with good enough gear to one shot the few mobs casters cant kill.
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Jun 2 2017 10:48am
Quote (RistVaLL @ Jun 2 2017 08:38am)
You also dont always get 1% xp per monster in a full group when you have a higher class driving
Im sure if we used a very good group with the best gear, we might get the driver (feeder + xp gear) to mq maybe in 15-18min somewhere.

But this is pretty much only posible when you have 4x warlocks and 1 melee with good enough gear to one shot the few mobs casters cant kill.


Good point. Doesn't look like anyone accounted for 0-35% exp penalty...(i think -25 would be good to calculate as warlock is opop... charms hit harder and with mana fish ignore all regular issues) nor abilities.... unless its a feeder with no abilities :rofl: but then again that wouldn't be fastest
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Jun 2 2017 05:17pm
Quote (Gearic @ Jun 3 2017 12:15am)
I was recently told to seek a mentor instead of asking actual questions, because apparently asking questions about how the game works floods the forum.

I can't imagine this being considered more useful.


He is right (below), I don't listen, and this post isn't about "leaving a well game open" or "what should I do with this and that" which can instantly be answered by a mentor or joining a guild where you can post them in the guild thread for help.

Quote (a_hotter_otter @ Jun 3 2017 12:41am)
Don't be a sassy sally ;)

Rex doesn't listen either :p just keep posting your questions and ignore the negative Nancy's. You are doing just fine.

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Quote (RistVaLL @ Jun 3 2017 02:38am)
You also dont always get 1% xp per monster in a full group when you have a higher class driving
Im sure if we used a very good group with the best gear, we might get the driver (feeder + xp gear) to mq maybe in 15-18min somewhere.

But this is pretty much only posible when you have 4x warlocks and 1 melee with good enough gear to one shot the few mobs casters cant kill.


Quote (SunnyInPhiladelphia @ Jun 3 2017 05:48am)
Good point. Doesn't look like anyone accounted for 0-35% exp penalty...(i think -25 would be good to calculate as warlock is opop... charms hit harder and with mana fish ignore all regular issues) nor abilities.... unless its a feeder with no abilities :rofl: but then again that wouldn't be fastest


I was asking if someone could do the calculations based on the circumstances I posted since I was drunk, but as usual, there are things like the "exp penalty" or using "fish" or "driver being higher level", "lag issues", "person drops from group" or "gotta take a dump" etc.

I based the question around the fastest action (ignoring heavy weapons) which takes 1 second, so the fastest time, so for solo'ing, is it 1 hour and 19 minutes, excluding all other factors? If so, then a full group would be around 10 minutes?
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Jun 3 2017 01:20am
You totally miss that a solo player gets a lot more exp per monster than a group.
this was introduced a while back to make solo players faster and give them a small advantage compared to groups.. so that they dont need 5 times as long but only 3-4 times as long
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Quote (ahs_darkhunter @ Jun 3 2017 08:20pm)
You totally miss that a solo player gets a lot more exp per monster than a group.
this was introduced a while back to make solo players faster and give them a small advantage compared to groups.. so that they dont need 5 times as long but only 3-4 times as long


You forget, you still get 1% experience for one monster kill per second solo'ing, thus, it still takes you around 70,000 kills to get from level 1 to 71, thus fastest time is around 1 hour and 19 minutes solo'ing, forget the random 2% it is based on the TOTAL points on the individual monsters who randomly have a little bit more, but, not exactly 100% more points to gain a full 2% on the bar, which is what an Evil Presence gives you.

Note: tested this 1 kill at a time.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 3 2017 01:42am
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you get about 3-5% from an ep.. and you cant one shot monsters all climb. even with 283ee ice and +134int from gear i dont one shot every monster.. so i dont think others can do that.
2 hours.. maybe 1 hour 45.. but i dont think 1hour 19min would work.

the point was also more about groups... groups dont get 1% per monster.. so you cant just divide the solo time by 5 or even more..

This post was edited by ahs_darkhunter on Jun 3 2017 01:55am
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Quote (ahs_darkhunter @ Jun 3 2017 08:53pm)
you get about 3-5% from an ep.. and you cant one shot monsters all climb. even with 283ee ice and +134int from gear i dont one shot every monster.. so i dont think others can do that.
2 hours.. maybe 1 hour 45.. but i dont think 1hour 19min would work.

the point was also more about groups... groups dont get 1% per monster.. so you cant just divide the solo time by 5 or even more..


Semantics again? Why not bring up welling Tier I's at level 1 where you get around 6 - 8% (occasionally 10-11%) and then you get diminishing returns once you reach level 3 - 5 where you should be welling Tier II's so you gain the highest experience possible.

Let's make it simple;

Let us say that you could instakill a monster per second regardless of level and item requirements et cetera. So, when solo'ing, you kill 100 monsters which equal a level, now that means you have to kill 70,000 monsters to get from level 1 to 71.

Now, 70,000 monsters equate to 70,000 seconds, which rounded down to time, it would be around 1 hour and 19 minutes. Is this incorrect? I am still drunk and my way of calculating it maybe off, so, now, assume this is the same
with a full group, BUT, every wave has 9 monsters and each monster gives 1% experience, so each character in the group gets 9% experience per wave per second, thus, the time difference would be divided by 9, is that right?

End Note, Even though it is NOT possible, what is the fastest time, my mistake was using the word "possible" in the title. Thanks in advance.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 3 2017 03:47am
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Jun 3 2017 03:53am
Lets go with this

Every wave has 9 monster, each monster gives 1%exp and you always have a multistrike/cast up so you always get 9%exp per second but you have 100% Quick Draw so you double it to 18% per second

and then math and such
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Jun 3 2017 04:05am
I tried the various theories proposed in this topic,
but something always got in the way



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