1 Cs = 3 Dex? - Topic

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May 6 2012 08:26pm

Quote (Cheeya @ May 6 2012 09:23pm)

tbh as cole said there shouldnt really be any comparison due to the diminishing returns its not about what is on the individual item as much as it is about your entire build and the rest of your gear.

as for chocolope's post that was sarcasm

Idk Might be good if it was on hc... but come on that's Sc so idk it's not like it's a T1 Unspawn so i think it could be better

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May 6 2012 08:47pm

Quote (Cheeya @ May 6 2012 10:23pm)

as for chocolope's post that was sarcasm

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May 6 2012 09:47pm

Quote (RareGift @ May 6 2012 10:26pm)

(Just kidding Nick don't Rage pm me Buddy <3)

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May 7 2012 01:46am

I tested it out a while back using daggers.

I compared the average damage of 400 actions using 3 setups:
Dex gear
Crit gear
No gear

In these tests, I never used any abilites to remove the "random factor" of getting a 10k crit hit, which would change the outcome greatly.

I was not able to get any exact number of the effect of 1 crit, but my conclusion was that it's equal to somewhere between 2.5 - 2.8 dex.

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May 7 2012 01:57am

Quote (Stok3d @ 7 May 2012 02:02)

o.O

So something like the below is gg because of side mods??

Angelic lightning X
Level Req: 35
Spell Damage: 10 to 105
Mana Cost: 77

+50 Dexterity
+7 Critical Strike
+9% Armor Pierce
+2% Physical Damage Reduction

its a nice item, but not worth your dream overpriced amount of 50k

let me guess, you payed something like 10k?

b2t: crit strike is nice but not compareable to dex , since your crit strikes with weapons are based on that ratio thing
crit strike just increases the chance for crits independent of your stats (dex/str)

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May 7 2012 02:06am

Quote (BeltzeBuBi @ May 7 2012 11:42am)

Someone know that exactly?

No sorry...

CS is better on a Caster though.

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May 7 2012 06:35am

Quote (Meridius @ May 7 2012 03:57am)

its a nice item, but not worth your dream overpriced amount of 50k

It's the 2nd best HH MQ charm in game and you get it at lvl 35. Also, it's the BEST MQ Dex charm in game that you again get at lvl 35. Yeah, It's worth what I ask and more.

+Crit is amazing. I ran +18crit from lvl 40 to MQ and my total dmg would surpass that of all the Warlocks I played with as a monk or ninja. Those that realize the 'tricks' of this game get rewarded as many have mentioned above.

This post was edited by Stok3d on May 7 2012 06:40am

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May 7 2012 06:41am

Quote (Stok3d @ May 7 2012 07:35am)

It's the 2nd best HH charm MQ charm in game and you get it at lvl 35. Also, it's the BEST MQ Dex charm in game that you again get at lvl 35. Yeah, It's worth what I ask and more.

50k for that.... Lol i wouldn't pay it but granted i like using a 66 stat t1 to 55

because unspawns is where it is at on Sc !

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May 7 2012 06:42am

Quote (Stok3d @ May 7 2012 08:35am)

It's the 2nd best HH MQ charm in game and you get it at lvl 35. Also, it's the BEST MQ Dex charm in game that you again get at lvl 35. Yeah, It's worth what I ask and more.

+Crit is amazing. I ran +18crit from lvl 40 to MQ and my dmg would surpass that of all the Warlocks I played with as a monk or ninja. Those that realize the 'tricks' of this game get rewarded as many have mentioned above.

Its not a mq charm. Needs 55+ 5+ crit or nn.

1 crit is = to 1 crit real simple

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May 7 2012 06:48am

Quote (SmokeyMcPot1990 @ May 7 2012 08:42am)

Its not a mq charm. Needs 55+ 5+ crit or nn.

1 crit is = to 1 crit real simple

I owned BOTH that 35 light and a 55 charm with 70dex+1Crit. The 35Light was MUCH better and I used it for MQ.

Your generalization is VERY far from accurate on ratio. At least when I played, it was closer to 1cs=3dex. Yes, I did a VERY large amount of quality testing on this as I focused my entire melee setup around it...

Quote (Paparick @ May 7 2012 08:51am)

You should donate that charm to me so I can put it to proper use with my 55 chain

I just tried to send it to Vault #257923 and it wouldn't let me

Quote (sir_lance_bb @ May 7 2012 08:53am)

Ladder Slasher

Where the elite argue about how to get max dps that is 20000% more damage than you actually need to accomplish what you need to do.
Crit strike is strong once you already have the stats with it, so don't stack just crit strike, you need the stats before the modifiers really put it to work.

But there are a few items that have both stats and CS and the combo allows you to unlock godmode. As for needing the dmg, you just let your abilities go at 10% to kill mobs which allows for MUCH quicker climbs. Also, I've been reading a lot about these recent changes, didn't Paul make the game challenging again? (I'm not going to lie--it's making me get that itch to slash again)

This post was edited by Stok3d on May 7 2012 07:06am

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