Quote (James84 @ Jan 11 2011 11:03pm)

Sure, crap heals or not. I admit my lvl 1 - 10 heals aren't the best also. But a mage or caster has added full Int. no need for healing gear, just a heal charm would do the trick.
Thats what I mean.

You say when it comes to Ep's they help heal, but they can't if they dont even have a heal equipped, wich most of the time, they dont





I'd kick, the leecher with mass Fg. I've done it before, I ask if he can upgrade gear, he says anything negative, bye bye I ask them to leave. I hardly kick, unless he persists on staying.

Others, with low Fg and low gear, if they're trying I let them be and let them pick up gear as they drop. But if I see someone in range that would help out the team more, I would let them in over the newer person.

I doubt my actions are wrong, I do alot to help everyone that plays Ls, as best I can

Quote (pele_188 @ Jan 11 2011 09:57pm)

I'm not condoning what paparick did, yet merely asking your opinion because I had a situation happen to me earlier.

Member was a 40 mage.
Using a 36EE 35 dagger
Random armor
11 dex tier 4 charm

Seemed to be a new member, yet had 4.5k fg. 

When I mentioned what he needed to buy/do, he said "Why would I spend my fg on this game"?

Do I keep him in group or kick or explain what he needs to do or a combination of these?  He seemed to know that he could be carried and be just fine. 



Actually has happened to me twice today with another member with very little fg, yet was "in the hole" fg because of a loan.  They were using gear on a mage that enabled 100avg damage with max 28x.  Do I keep, boot. or explain?

Quote (James84 @ Jan 11 2011 09:54pm)

I like you Karl your a good person. I like Rick also, he's also a good person

Explaining to "newbs" is best of course.
I tend to ask them, if they can heal, if they say no, thats when I ask them to leave.

Healing is somewhat important at any lvl, thats how I look at it though.
So many ppl, who even know how to play, dont even heal before lvl 10 + Imo. thats wrong, you can get 9 eps or pinch before that lvl and die? Not nice.
And of course not many ppl tank also, therefore, no proper tank and casters with no heal charms, to me are useless ppl playing the game and being selfish.

I've said it before though, this game is a selfish game indeed

Quote (frisky @ Jan 11 2011 10:14pm)

I understand your point at higher lvls and if the member does not show intent to better himself then by all means bash. But I see nn to do so at low lvls. Like I said Rick does a great job within the site. Just at lower lvls I feel a little advise instead of rudeness could help.

yes 7-9 wave ep at low lvl = death if you dont know how to play. There is a shrine and you can always remake (is that not why paul made the update like it is?).

Quote (James84 @ Jan 11 2011 10:17pm)

True about the shrine, but if you didn't collect shriners, thinking a mage would heal. And poof 9 eps spawn and no proper tank. Sometimes it's tko, lights out.
Plus you didn't have shrines to go to town and shrine so, thats either a rm, or back and forth with some regen time in between. Daring times.

Quote (Gopher10 @ Jan 12 2011 05:27am)

If you guys all followed the pro caster guide there would be no problems with situations like this.

Quote (frisky @ Jan 11 2011 10:26pm)

I know there are many different ways to look at how I phrased the wording in the post..

but it was more on how he handled it to tell you the truth, was in game less than a min. The mages where killing like they should be and did not ask if they even had a heal just MR. Neg came out and leaves. I have played with rick many times and he is like that which I understand he is who he is. Just pushed a button and made me want to make a point.

I hope I am not wrong!

Quote (Svartermetalisk @ Jan 11 2011 09:30pm)

That bad boy should get stickied already.

Quote (FloppyWaffles @ Jan 12 2011 04:35am)

why the hell do people NOT have heals until level 10/15????

any excuse to have great heals 15+ but nothing 0-15 is a lame one for sure. you can have useful heals for literally 3 fg for those 3 tiers.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE STATTING INT ANYWAYS.

i agree with rick on this point