imo I thinks this is correct.


And yes Daggers are far better right now. IMO

yes, please look at the second s/s I am also going to climb a barb with pure str and test the axe out then.

Whats also confusing is this -
Strength: Increases the base damage and *critical hit chance for melee weapons by the ratio for that particular weapon.
Dexterity: Increases the base damage and *critical hit chance for melee weapons by the ratio for that particular weapon.

* Critical hits are subjected to a diminishing return ratio for base stats.

Your crits were the same for perfect ratio tests and unbalanced with dex being much higher. The note says base stats tho, does this mean not on items? If thats the case it makes sense. Or does it just mean dex/str has dimish while +crit strike does not. And what about crit flux?!

Hiding information about the game's stats is really getting old

This post was edited by KakeWalk on Oct 10 2010 06:36pm

Based on those numbers bolded in your tests, it gives my calculations a bit more sense... as it is around the same difference in damage:

Round down effect vs daggers effectiveness: 9 dex = 8.1 ee
Round down effect vs Axe effectiveness: 9 dex = 4.5 ee

If we increase this by 10, it becomes more noticeable:
81% ee (dagger for using 90 dex)
45% ee (axe for using 90 dex)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Oct 10 2010 06:44pm

wtf does that have to do with anything??

this thread was made to exploit the clear difference between the 90/10 weapons and the 50/50 weapons.

if this is the only thing that is different between weapons then why such a big difference in damage?
i mean a 256ee axe with what you say can stat anything and just do godly damage
but u need to have all dex with a dagger

there should be very small difference in average damage

There clearly is a large difference.

Only question now is if this is intended or if it is a coding mess up.



if he is right every stat point with an axe will give 0.5 at the same time as every stat point with a dagger will give 0.9 hence the dmg difference.

This post was edited by Svartermetalisk on Oct 10 2010 06:48pm

Or they're trying to figure out how the ratio works.

Yeah but when you add str to that equation they become balanced because daggers only get a .10 from str and axes get .50 from str.

So 5str/dex equal the same amount of damage added compared to 9dex/1 str.

The reason daggers have higher increasing damage in the tests is because their is more gear that exists to make the ratio optimal.

Nick had 391 total stats with the majority of them being dex with him being close to his ratio.

Your str/dex both barely total over 300. If you were to take a str and dex that total to about 390 and about the same EE compared to the daggers Nick used, you would see the same average of result.

You guys are looking at it incorrectly.

Daggers are not mathematically better. They are better because of limitations of gear and characters.

so 70 stats is 800 damage in difference?