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Feb 23 2010 10:59am
Quote (arxyn @ Feb 23 2010 11:52am)
offensive casting in catacombs used to be non existant due to mana restrictions.  Melee doesn't have that problem. 

It was imbalanced before but now I think the balance between casting and melee is very nice.


I agree, and that pretty much says it all. By way of lending my support:

Me too!!!!!!!!

This post was edited by Edball on Feb 23 2010 11:00am
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Feb 23 2010 11:22am
Quote (WarFox @ Feb 23 2010 04:56pm)
You obviously have been in the wrong catas :rofl:


I was in catastar with you yesterday so maybe you was wrong catas too.

Yes casting has potential to be gfg but keep in mind a few things.

1- Only 3 classes are really designed for casting, one of them being alchy, very hard to get
2- You'll need to solo it up quite a bit before having right prof
3- Generally caster prof harder to get
4- Unless you have gfg prof, gear, or group, you'll be running out of mana/not casting quite often
5- If theres no healer well... healer you'll need to be :)
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Feb 23 2010 11:32am
Quote (arxyn @ Feb 23 2010 12:22pm)
I was in catastar with you yesterday so maybe you was wrong catas too.

Yes casting has potential to be gfg but keep in mind a few things.

1- Only 3 classes are really designed for casting, one of them being alchy, very hard to get
2- You'll need to solo it up quite a bit before having right prof
3- Generally caster prof harder to get
4- Unless you have gfg prof, gear, or group, you'll be running out of mana/not casting quite often
5- If theres no healer well... healer you'll need to be :)


Wes didn't have any prof yesterday.

1- Any class can still effectively cast/ put melee gear back on and attack. I've seen it many times with monks, ninjas, etc.
2- Same with any type of weapon. It's just hardwork and dedication.
3- Caster prof is the same to get as melee. Each hit you get the same point of prof per hit.
4- Even with running out of mana with maybe 70-80% to go, you still make the group go by much faster
5- I've been stuck in so many games with casters as a healer myself, on my ninja or monk. Hybrids ftw.

I'm honestly not ripping on casting, I'm just saying there isn't a balance, and melee should be given some benefit for their hard work and dedication as well. It would definitely make the game and catacombing more fun.
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Feb 23 2010 11:40am
Quickdraw? :huh:
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Feb 23 2010 11:48am
waste your life and you will be boss like meeeeeeeeee
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Feb 23 2010 11:55am
how about like a kid's meal version of the mcmegacrit?
chance to do 1/10th of the damage to all mobs, but still full damage to the mob that was clicked?

@ everyone saying it's balanced now - it takes casters a helluva lot of dedication to be effectively casting in cata right?
why should melee dedication be left behind? We're not asking for melee megacrits identical to casters, just something cool to make people thing 'nice he must have a high dagger prof'
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Why do people put food in polls, seriously

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Feb 23 2010 12:12pm
Quote (benell @ Feb 23 2010 12:48pm)
waste your life and you will be boss like meeeeeeeeee


Im catching you and Tim both scrub, best keep clicking.

Balance? Eh, if your not using High EE charms and don't have High profs then yes I can see this, but if your in a game with 1 or 2 high prof casters then Melee really dont have much chance to attack. Unless ofc, your WASTING your time killing evils while looking for chests or TD's, but really power leveling is just as fast imo. I guess it really depends on how you look at it.

This post was edited by HylianHero on Feb 23 2010 12:18pm
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Feb 23 2010 12:31pm
Quote (FloppyWaffles @ Feb 23 2010 12:55pm)
how about like a kid's meal version of the mcmegacrit?
chance to do 1/10th of the damage to all mobs, but still full damage to the mob that was clicked?

@ everyone saying it's balanced now - it takes casters a helluva lot of dedication to be effectively casting in cata right?
why should melee dedication be left behind? We're not asking for melee megacrits identical to casters, just something cool to make people thing 'nice he must have a high dagger prof'


Having 20+ weapon prof is not going to be left behind. You will see that improvement. I have 22 Axe prof on my HC HH and I can tell you I noticed the difference from when I first started. And with the new 20EE over the cap, Profs are more powerful than ever.
Caster is melee with a mana bar in the arena and the only benefit is that your chance to do higher then your shown dmg is not based on dex. It has some passive ability to hit over shown dmg and crit strike and armor pierce affect it compared to melee which has tons of mods that affects how you hit a monster.
Melee is still pretty good in catacombs. You have to go melee to do mirror maze. And doing the quest is a lot easier with tank meleelers and healers. Not to mention the decreased healing cost has increased the effectiveness of hybrid so crazy that welling can be just as easy as a warlock caster now.
Casting is only beneficial in catacombs if you have dedicated many climbs of solo climbing to gain prof. If you don't have prof, you end up like Autism crying because you can't do shit in catacombs and living under false premises that you actually mean anything.

To conclude simply, the previous system promoted segregated play. I know it sounds dumb to compare it to that, but think about it, there use to be 2 different worlds. If you were melee, you most likely catacomb or obtain melee gear to solo effectively by spending a lot of fg and casting was purely a arena game and a welling game.

In a way it allows more people to interact now. People like cole and others should benefit from this because of all the climbing they did.

Even though I believe weapons should not have the same properties as charms in terms of mega criting, I would take the old system back any day of the week.

Independence > anything.

Quote (benell @ Feb 23 2010 12:48pm)
waste your life and you will be boss like meeeeeeeeee


Pro advice. I will vouch this pro as a fellow pro myself.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on Feb 23 2010 12:32pm
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Mar 15 2010 11:26am
i like this, vote: yes
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