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Dec 16 2009 05:13pm
Quote (3yrtolt @ Dec 16 2009 06:07pm)
Mind Numb already affected charms. What he said didn't do anything for casters until 1.18. :)


Yes we knew that..
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yea i used to 1-4 hit every monster with my mq charm
now some monsters take like 15 hits
im glad i only paid 40k for my earth

but ive also hit for 1500 and my charm shows 500-1000
so u can hit over ur max still

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Quote (Heid @ Dec 16 2009 06:14pm)
yea i used to 1-4 hit every monster with my mq charm
now some monsters take like 15 hits
im glad i only paid 40k for my earth

but ive also hit for 1500 and my charm shows 500-1000
so u can hit over ur max still


I sense some sarcastism in that Jamal! :P
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Dec 16 2009 05:22pm
Critical Strike and Armor Pierce effects Charm Damage.

Question:
Do they have to be on the CHARM... or can they come from other source? (armor/weapon etc)

Quote (_Mork_ @ Dec 17 2009 11:27am)
can be from wep/armor/main charm


Has this actually been tested?
Mind you... it would be good if it is... then it helps physical damage as well... if hybrid type caster

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Quote (izParagonzi @ 17 Dec 2009 01:22)
Critical Strike and Armor Pierce effects Charm Damage.

Question:
Do they have to be on the CHARM... or can they come from other source? (armor/weapon etc)


can be from wep/armor/main charm
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Dec 16 2009 05:37pm
Quote (_Mork_ @ Dec 16 2009 06:27pm)
can be from wep/armor/main charm


Yes, I can confirm this. I got ap/mn on some of my gear and I've already seen my 35 fire without those mods do nice crits.
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Dec 16 2009 05:39pm
Quote (kaspir @ Dec 16 2009 06:37pm)
Yes, I can confirm this. I got ap/mn on some of my gear and I've already seen my 35 fire without those mods do nice crits.


"nice" as in? how much above the max dmg listed?
and is crit strike as a mod the only way to obtain these crits?
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Dec 16 2009 05:41pm
Quote (FloppyWaffles @ Dec 16 2009 06:39pm)
"nice" as in?  how much above the max dmg listed?
and is crit strike as a mod the only way to obtain these crits?


dexterity doesn't increase charm damage, that's for sure.
If armor pierce and crit flux is the only way to increase damage, i think that is too little.
Normally I do over 1200 dmg with my lvl 30 charm. I can't even max out over 800 now and I'm averaging about 300 with my nice, new shiny warlock.

I can understand the change but crit strike should be a 3x multiplier just like melee attacks since this is the logic, isn't it?

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dexterity doesn't increase charm damage, that's for sure.
If armor pierce and crit flux is the only way to increase damage, i think that is too little.
Normally I do over 1200 dmg with my lvl 30 charm. I can't even max out over 800 now and I'm averaging about 300 with my nice, new shiny warlock.

I can understand the change but crit strike should be a 3x multiplier just like melee attacks since this is the logic, isn't it?


the crit strike multiplier is not 3x It varies on your dex compared to the monsters dex. As for the rest of what you said iunno.
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Dec 16 2009 05:48pm
Quote (arxyn @ Dec 16 2009 06:44pm)
the crit strike multiplier is not 3x  It varies on your dex compared to the monsters dex.  As for the rest of what you said iunno.


it may not be a steady multiplier of 3x every time but with a charm that shows nearly 600 it would on occassion hit near 1500 wouldn't you think?
It's like my sword, when the base damage shows 1350, sometimes i hit 1400 but i can also crit for 4200.

I'm just trying to figure out where is the source of damage coming from. Armor pierce and crit flux have never been a primary modifier and casters still thrive on intelligence especially since it ensures the balance of healing.
If intelligence is not proving to be an equal crit strike as dexterity provides, this is very interesting.
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