I'd be interesting to see results with much lower dex, but i guess that's a little difficult with a ninja since it starts with so much :/

very tempted to run HH and test this a couple times, might have to

A problem i'm not 100% sure whether teammate's gear with stats like critical strike, critical flux, and armor pierce will affect your damage as well.

I will do a climb with approx 80 dex and compare with my regular build (120+ dex) to see if i notice a difference. I will be using a club and i know the general average and maximum dmg i've done with my regular build and hope to see a result similar to yours.

wait what?!?! you think if you and I are in a cata game, and you have crit strike on your gear, I will get the bonus.....very highly doubt that

I stand in awe of your vast experience.

My chains, solo, were best running with 150 dex, 100int, and 100 st. Like, they were FULL chains.

Oh yeah, that's as headhunter.

K, thanks.

why would you think that headhunter should be pointed out here? Since ofc headhunter is one of the latest classes, therefore having more total stats than feeder/sammy/pally/all the way up


i dont doubt you have experience, but that bolded statement was just unnecessary and completely useless

Cool results
Be nice to see some solo results too but this is interesting for now

And now my big rant
To the people asking him to test different weapons: stfu
Click my profile for links to multiple topics telling you why showing it for one type is enough

Also, I think testing in catas will obv favor less dex than solo would simply because of lower monster dex and defense. But given that 50 might be better still than 70, it could end up not mattering at all and that dex sucks big time

Wrong. The inability to use heavy armors counts for everything. A headhunter is naught more than a rogue limited to axes, with less int. Play one, you'll understand.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 23 2009 11:38pm

also, with less exp gain per mob, you need more kills in a row to have a full chain

I went ahead and tried calculating damage with a 192ee ultimanium dagger for 200str/70dex vs 150str/120dex builds in lvl 70 catacombs--

average lvl 70 cata monster dex = 45
average lvl 70 cata monster defense = 46


***200str/70dex
base dmg for a normal hit = 663
critrate = 70/(500+70) = 0.123
critmultiplier = 2.00 + (70-45)/100 = x2.25
total damage from normal attacks = (663-46) x 0.877 = 541
total damage from crits = 663 x 0.123 x 2.25 = 183
total average damage = 724

***150str/120dex
base dmg for a normal hit = 551
critrate = 120/(500+120) = 0.194
critmultiplier = 2.00 + (120-45)/100 = 2.75
total damage from normal attacks = (551-46) x 0.806 = 407
total damage from crits = 294
total average damage = 701


Very similar results to what you got and reinforcing that str is always better than dex for pure damage. I'm surprised that you got no difference in damage taken, but that's probably because the damage from crits is dwarfed by the damage from normal hits since you are wearing a robe. I bet that with a char with a high EE plate you would observe some noticeable differences!

Anyway, great work coolbreeze in setting the str/dex question straight.