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Okay...another couple questions.

I vaguely remember catacombs being a thing, but was wondering if it is better to just do those to completion or mixing in maps. Also, what is the purpose of the whistle?
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Aug 14 2024 01:38am
Quote (crzasian @ 14 Aug 2024 01:49)
Okay...another couple questions.

I vaguely remember catacombs being a thing, but was wondering if it is better to just do those to completion or mixing in maps. Also, what is the purpose of the whistle?


Purpose of whistle is to spawn mobs faster and by doing so climb faster to MQ, with the right event and group you can get from lvl 1 to MQ in ~40minutes
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Purpose of whistle is to spawn mobs faster and by doing so climb faster to MQ, with the right event and group you can get from lvl 1 to MQ in ~40minutes


Amg it is so much faster!
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Aug 14 2024 06:20am
Quote (crzasian @ Aug 14 2024 06:33am)
Amg it is so much faster!


Drops are much worse though. Finding anything worth while when whistling is extremely rare (drops are rare as it is!).
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Drops are much worse though. Finding anything worth while when whistling is extremely rare (drops are rare as it is!).


Fair enough. I do like my shrine food lol. So are maps worth to do or not unless you get certain mods on them?
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Aug 14 2024 10:37am
Quote (crzasian @ Aug 14 2024 02:29pm)
Fair enough. I do like my shrine food lol. So are maps worth to do or not unless you get certain mods on them?


The first concern you have is what is the max level of mob of your map. In general this is the level requirement + 25. The except is tier 1 and 2 which I wouldn't bother using a map on anyway.

The advantage of maps:
No trap doors
No spins
Bonus mods
All tiles have chance of eps/treasure chests

Disadvantages
Max level of mobs
No Wells. (Except emblems)
Requires you to own a map.
Need to retrace your steps occasionally. Can reset catacombs at any point by making and closing a group.

Personally I don't wish to buy maps and like Wells and like to reset the map if I walk into a corner rather than go back. I also like trap doors.
So obviously I never use them.

Need to figure out what works for you though

Personally I like wells
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Aug 14 2024 10:57am
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The first concern you have is what is the max level of mob of your map. In general this is the level requirement + 25. The except is tier 1 and 2 which I wouldn't bother using a map on anyway.

The advantage of maps:
No trap doors
No spins
Bonus mods
All tiles have chance of eps/treasure chests

Disadvantages
Max level of mobs
No Wells. (Except emblems)
Requires you to own a map.
Need to retrace your steps occasionally. Can reset catacombs at any point by making and closing a group.

Personally I don't wish to buy maps and like Wells and like to reset the map if I walk into a corner rather than go back. I also like trap doors.
So obviously I never use them.

Need to figure out what works for you though

Personally I like wells


Agree with all of this besides the 'retracing of steps' since you would have do that in a non-map anyways. It's much faster in a map since no more monsters will appear on already explored areas, as well as not having the spinning.
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Aug 14 2024 11:14am
Quote (Robbie21 @ Aug 14 2024 05:57pm)
Agree with all of this besides the 'retracing of steps' since you would have do that in a non-map anyways. It's much faster in a map since no more monsters will appear on already explored areas, as well as not having the spinning.


I disagree with you. As I said i don't bother retracing steps in catacombs seeing if I hit a corner I just make and leave a group. Whilst in a map you will need to run around filling in anything unexplored.


I will agree its not much of a disadvantage and if you are the type who likes to collect maps and finish catacombs then catacombs has that as a large disadvantage.

Also missed out on the obvious advantage that the map also has the final chest
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