Oh...Salvation is news to me.

I have a decent EE Heal charm from guildy, but never realized this was a thing. Also never use the darn heal charm because it ends up being a waste of time vs just regen...but yeah Salv probably would do it.

So woke up to way more replies than expected, ty all.

Sounds like...
- EE on Padded would actually help if I wanted the tanky-ness
- Get Salvation to save everything.
- Can go heavier into vit instead of stopping at 100 w/ Dex robes.
- Get Salvation

I honestly never even realized that button existed. That might've been the silly thing that made it feel so bad. Looking forward to trying next climb! Ty all

a lot of the advise here is really good, but predicated on having excellent gear

salvation relies on killing speed and a very good heal charm

an EE padded robe is only useful if very good i.e. ~200ee ish, and coupled with killing speed

tbh i think your current approach is probably optimal with the level of gear you have, 100ish vita and kill as much as you can then regen

85 vita/ rest int

Doublestrike and salvation the whole way

I mean I'm def doing something wrong ATM because this is the most miserable climb I've done so far...on what's apparently a good solo class
I'm thinking I just do some experimenting w/ the advice, then if I have to drop some FG for REAL gear then so be it. But good to know ty! Also my regen gear isn't great but MP is terrible...currently 12/11/10




^ Is Int just for the magic def and salvation healing? I feel like I need way better gear to pull off 85 vit but maybe I'm trippin. Would make regen quicker tho.


Again ty all for help!

What skills did you end up going? Double strike until a high percentage, then either two hit back or powerstrike is the way to go. The more vit you have the better two hit back is.

With your gear you may even want to go 110 base vit, so you can stay in the fights just a tad longer.

whatcha mean by the bold? Doesn't make sense to me but maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying...

EE padded robe doesn't need to be 200 ee to be useful. But 200 ee will work better than 150 ee... so I guess?

Yeah current approach might be good if his heal isn't good enough and he doesn't have int side mods/isn't willing to stat some int.

This post was edited by BWConformity on Mar 13 2024 09:37am

All the advice given by everyone is great, I just looked at your character and items while @ level 70.

Hmm, based on your current setup... join a group run and sit in the back & ride it out to Master Quest (also keeping up with actions) and start over.

The following information is based ONLY on your Master Quest gear and starting off with your Tier X (level 35 Padded Robe).

It is functional and usable, however I believe you could benefit using a Tier XIV Padded robe with say LESS dexterity but other modifiers... I am looking at what is available on MP (SC) atm;

Level 45+ Padded Robe ONLY

Magical pixiesilk padded robe
Level Req: 50
Physical Defense: 0 to 29
Magical Defense: 40 to 100
+25 Dexterity
@ 10 Forum Gold

This will have more defense and only 2 dex less, which isn't a problem. NOTE: the DEFENSE displayed will be different to your character stats. The Marketplace does NOT show you that value based on your character.

Going to post this now... hoping that you will purchase it at a steal and can use at your current level.

I'm sure you can piece together what I'm saying. Killing speed doesn't directly affect it's function mechanically, but it's utility.

Bought this the instant I read it lol ty!


Side-note, am I understandin the Int stuff right, that it's mainly to juice the heal?


Yeah ATM I'm scuffed...never took Salv and wasted points in Cross-strike early, but the MQ Re-roll going to be Doublestrike, Powerstrike, Salvation.

I'd happily budget ~ 1k into the gear to have a better setup for the future...I've just been very confused on the best place to spend the FG

Currently I did 100 vit then REST into dex, and the Dmg is beyond fine (for me) so maybe that 110 vit and dumb 20 points into Int next time would make more sense.

I don't wanna read all posts so I'll just try to figure out what I'd do if I were you.

I don't think using salvation is a good idea, you need to spend too many points on it and if your heal charm isn't good enough it won't do too much.

I'd probably go to about 90 vita, 40 int and rest into dex at around lvl 65-75 and maybe try to go to 100 with sneaky or till 77.

The best gameplay imo is to use doublestrike, powerstrike and either twohitback or retribution. It depends if you're using easy mod or not, but it should work both ways.

The idea is: every time you spawn a 2 monster or a 3 monster wave you use your abilities and try to kill at least 1 monster, so you can only fight 1 monster at a time at any given time. Since your gear isn't the best, by the time you kill 1 monster you should charge back some powerstrike so you can hopefully 1 hit a monster in the next wave and so on. So you never have to fight multiple monsters at once, because it makes you take too much dmg. Imo it's better to use a dex robe than ee robe, but it should be closer to 40 dex , if you can't get to ~40, ee might be better as long as it's a lvl 55 robe and 100+ ee. I think using dex robe is better, because you can charge your retribution/twohitback faster and since most of the dmg you take is physical and your heal isn't too good, you can't really heal yourself while fighting monsters.

Then the gameplay is: every time you lose a lot of life you set your whitle lvl to 1, you whistle lvl 1 monsters and heal yourself until you're full or until you run out of mana. You only shrine items when you're out of both mana and life to get better efficiency and then you continue. If you have nothing left to shrine and no life or mana, you have to town of course. But using both your mana and life makes warm lights more effective and your time in town better since you regen both stats, you go back in cata when your mana recharges, which should be before you're full life, but you whistle lvl 1 monsters to use it, then you continue. You only stay in town when you're regening both life mana.