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Nov 20 2023 10:19am
Quote (woofer14 @ Nov 20 2023 11:55am)
Game would be much more fun having the ability to turn any item into an essence or glyph without the bullshit skill challenge and proficiency


I disagree. Lots of players have spent their precious time and energy building up their proficiencies so that the essences they sell would be worth the time they spent.

Thats just like saying we should get rid of restaurants (who spent the time and money to get their licenses, pay for their rent, employees, etc…) and just have a bunch of illegal vendors selling the same food in tents or food truck without any regulations or punishment for lacking licenses, food protection, etc…..
By the way: this is already happening in los angeles.

Edit: i agree with op’s suggestion and voted yes here

This post was edited by CARTRACK on Nov 20 2023 10:20am
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Nov 20 2023 10:21am
Quote (CARTRACK @ Nov 20 2023 11:19am)
I disagree. Lots of players have spent their precious time and energy building up their proficiencies so that the essences they sell would be worth the time they spent.

Thats just like saying we should get rid of restaurants (who spent the time and money to get their licenses, pay for their rent, employees, etc…) and just have a bunch of illegal vendors selling the same food in tents or food truck without any regulations or punishment for lacking licenses, food protection, etc…..
By the way: this is already happening in los angeles.


As a chef.. I feel like this is irrelevant and doesn't co relate as much as I'd like to try to make it.
I dont get the contrast.


Edit: I understand what you are trying to say mixing up cores. But chars per core should be universal.. SKILL WISE

I dont want to have to switch chars to stop fishing for example.
Just cuz we finally got a full group (I solo so it doesn't really matter)
But like I said I'm a Warlock on my secondary char. I have no use in trying to fish while I wait for a group.


So to relate it to OP
I believe there should be a segregation of skills per core (comparing a rradtsurant to trucks)
But that's it.

This post was edited by Outraged on Nov 20 2023 10:37am
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Nov 20 2023 10:25am
Quote (Outraged @ Nov 20 2023 01:21pm)
As a chef.. I feel like this is irrelevant and doesn't co relate as much as I'd like to try to make it.
I dont get the contrast.


It was a reply to woofers suggestion not op’s

Maybe not happening in your area, but here in LA i can take you to a restaurant where a burrito is $15 or so then take you around the block where almost the same burrito is sold for $6-$8.
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Nov 20 2023 10:29am
Quote (CARTRACK @ Nov 20 2023 11:25am)
It was a reply to woofers suggestion not op’s

Maybe not happening in your area, but here in LA i can take you to a restaurant where a burrito is $15 or so then take you around the block where almost the same burrito is sold for $6-$8.


Yea I live in New England. It's different here.

Around here just to park your truck or have a hot dog cart there's park fees. (Believe me I tried looking into buying a truck one wedding season beacuse i was sick of doing 3 weddings a day.)
Which said fees go into our food service (health inspections)
And things that make certian restaurants more prestigious. So go ahead and eat that unrefrigerated burger cuz its half price 😆😆😆


I dont eat unless there's a serv safe manager posted on the wall. Been doing this shit too long to eat like that.
Even our state fairs need the inspections. Those trucks and trailers go through ringers for it just to sell a god damn candy apple

To relate it to what you said. I think cores should be separate (saying food trucks vs restaruants)

But that's it. Everyone Is in the same market otherwise, doesn't matter who you got working as the chef (being your toon)
when it's the restaraunts name

This post was edited by Outraged on Nov 20 2023 10:42am
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Nov 20 2023 12:38pm
Quote (Outraged @ Nov 20 2023 11:29am)
Yea I live in New England. It's different here.

Around here just to park your truck or have a hot dog cart there's park fees. (Believe me I tried looking into buying a truck one wedding season beacuse i was sick of doing 3 weddings a day.)
Which said fees go into our food service (health inspections)
And things that make certian restaurants more prestigious. So go ahead and eat that unrefrigerated burger cuz its half price 😆😆😆


I dont eat unless there's a serv safe manager posted on the wall. Been doing this shit too long to eat like that.
Even our state fairs need the inspections. Those trucks and trailers go through ringers for it just to sell a god damn candy apple

To relate it to what you said. I think cores should be separate (saying food trucks vs restaruants)

But that's it. Everyone Is in the same market otherwise, doesn't matter who you got working as the chef (being your toon)
when it's the restaraunts name


You must be completely missing the context.

He's saying that Skilling should still have prof associated with it, in contrast to what woofer said. (This has nothing to do with softcore/hardcore).
His reasoning is that the people with prof have put in the time/diligence to reap the rewards (FG income/consumable items). As opposed to those who want the rewards without going through the pain of acquiring the skill.
The analogy is legitimate restaurants vs illegal/pop-up trucks. The illegal trucks are attempting to skirt the regulations and offering potentially unsafe products for a faction of the cost. They are able to offer lower prices as they do not have the overhead of hiring legitimate workers and applying for and obtaining quality inspections.

On topic, I think Core-wide Skilling prof would be nice.
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Nov 20 2023 12:48pm
Quote (effinA @ Nov 20 2023 06:38pm)
You must be completely missing the context.

He's saying that Skilling should still have prof associated with it, in contrast to what woofer said. (This has nothing to do with softcore/hardcore).
His reasoning is that the people with prof have put in the time/diligence to reap the rewards (FG income/consumable items). As opposed to those who want the rewards without going through the pain of acquiring the skill.
The analogy is legitimate restaurants vs illegal/pop-up trucks. The illegal trucks are attempting to skirt the regulations and offering potentially unsafe products for a faction of the cost. They are able to offer lower prices as they do not have the overhead of hiring legitimate workers and applying for and obtaining quality inspections.

On topic, I think Core-wide Skilling prof would be nice.


I don't get the analogy at all, how would essences that are instantly created instead of the arbitrary time wasting bs skilling process be any different? It's more like saying if they invent a procedure that makes you muscular without any effort, no one should use it because it would be unfair to the people who work out 5 days a week.
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Nov 20 2023 12:52pm
Quote (woofer14 @ Nov 20 2023 01:48pm)
I don't get the analogy at all, how would essences that are instantly created instead of the arbitrary time wasting bs skilling process be any different? It's more like saying if they invent a procedure that makes you muscular without any effort, no one should use it because it would be unfair to the people who work out 5 days a week.


If essences are made instantly, then they would be worthless fg wise. If this happens, then may as well make catching fish instant. Same with glyphing. 0 point in leveling up skilling. May as well just remove it all. But thanks for your input newbie.
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Nov 20 2023 12:54pm
Quote (Light_Prince @ Nov 20 2023 01:52pm)
If essences are made instantly, then they would be worthless fg wise. If this happens, then may as well make catching fish instant. Same with glyphing. 0 point in leveling up skilling. May as well just remove it all. But thanks for your input newbie.


Keep muting the same. I’m paying my dues. Everyone can as well.
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Nov 20 2023 01:05pm
Quote (SouthernComfort @ 19 Nov 2023 19:57)
You should be able to skill on different characters of the same core. Its pointless to not be able to. I'm sure this has been suggested before, but whatever.


I feel that all prof should be by the account, not by character. This will also stop people from doing deathfarming also.
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Nov 20 2023 01:34pm
Quote (woofer14 @ Nov 20 2023 01:48pm)
I don't get the analogy at all, how would essences that are instantly created instead of the arbitrary time wasting bs skilling process be any different? It's more like saying if they invent a procedure that makes you muscular without any effort, no one should use it because it would be unfair to the people who work out 5 days a week.


Why don't you just take some steroids? Plenty of people do.
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