On this topic, is there a min/max amount of special tiles per cata size? Special tiles= eps/warm lights/TC/spins/TDs

I've noticed over the years playing this game that it varies greatly from catacomb to catacomb. For example, you could complete clear Catacomb 1 and only kill 1-3 EPs total. Then you proceed to clear Catacomb 2 and kill 30+ EPs total. I don't know what the max possible is, though.

Same thing happened was the reason I asked this, I cleared one 90% then second one almost half at lvl 55 with no ep's, after I found 3x in like 10 minutes

You are explaining "RNG" ... something like Randaom N Generator".

Just like exploring level 1 catacombs and finding a Well? sometimes you find 0 Wells completing 10 in a row, however you find 2 wells clearing 3 out of 5 catacombs from level 1 to 15... or 0 wells to level 30.

This is the same with Objectives as well... even though you have cleared a catacomb and have 2 objectives you can complete ... you don't complete any of them... or a full group that fully explores and still does not encounter an Objective.

Now we come to your question about Evil Presence ... shit... you could come across 8 tiles of EPs during a 20x15 dimension, or you get 1 set of EPs appearing on 1 of those tiles in the same dimension.

"Random" = "Random" = "0 to XX number"


EDIT: Oh, I forgot to add in this simple fact... you create a game and enter the catacomb ... you are randomly positioned... BUT... this is the funny thing... you SPAWN far away from ANY OR ALL EP spawn tiles ... let us say 10 tiles out of 20 x 15 but it takes you like 30 minutes to get in range because you get a "Spin/Flash" trap taking you back to the start or a TD... so you re-create the catacomb and start a new one... and this one only has 3 tiles of EPs ... doesn't matter if you spawn close or not, you have a higher dimension Catacomb to clear, but only 3 tiles of EPs... you trashed the previous catacomb that had 8 or 10 tiles with a smaller dimension.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Sep 4 2023 11:08pm

I think I understand, but can you expand a little more on how the "Spin/Flash" trap works? Is this helpful or not? Aren't all traps bad.

This post was edited by effinA on Sep 5 2023 12:17pm

When you hit unexplored tile it has a chance to put you randomly at other place in cata, you could be three tiles away from the last one, hit a trap to take you into opposite corner, go back and on the second to last hit a trap again taking you back again.

It can be good if you want to just farm and you would have to backtrack but if you want to go for the reward map its terrible.

If you are stupid enough to try to do it anyway, turning on easy mode when backtracking helps a bit since only 1-2 monsters can spawn

1:50 unexplored only.

I would imagine everytime you enter a new unexplored square you have a chance to spawn 1 to 3 monsters and once that is generated in probably has a even lower chance for those mobs to be eps. I would say on average.... I pop between 50 and 100 eps from exploring Level 35 to 75. Sometimes I go a long time between eps sometimes it's the next tile. One thing is for sure though the more you explore the more you're going to find and eventually swapping those ML items on for last hit is gonna pay off. Ls Is a marathon

Avg 50

I personally think that is totally BS. Hear me out.

Level 1 Catacomb = 5x5 Dimension (25 tiles) ... thus once a tile has been "Explored", you will NOT encounter an Evil Presence.

Your answer indicates that a 5x5 Dimension level 1 catacomb of 25 tiles @ 50% to encounter an Evil Presence means that you will encounter at LEAST 10 tiles of Evil Presence. Am I correct in this equation? I could be wrong for certain... however you maybe correct if an Event has 100% more EPs and when you create the level 1 catacomb the RnG states that 8 tiles will Spawn EPs ... thus you will have 16 tiles of EPs out of the 25 tiles.

The above paragraph does NOT include any +Emblems, +Well, +TD etc.
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Okay... now I need to know where you are coming from? Was your "Avg 50" reply to higher Catacomb dimension(s) and based on the amount of "Tiles" of that catacomb dimension? (example 32wX21h level 56 (MQ lvl 75+ and 50 tiles = an Evil Presence spawn???)

Well my answer is "No" ... 672 tiles and 50% of them being 32 EP tiles is what I would LOVE to happen, however, that number diminishes based on Warm Lights, Teleport Traps, Treasure Chests and Emblems ... also Trap Doors (differs based on the Event).

I have done many runs at higher level catacombs, and even the most EP encounter(s) I have had in a single catacomb is NOT even 15 tiles.

I know you have encountered this also... so 50% is overkill. (EDIT: or even 50 Tiles is... hmm?)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Sep 6 2023 04:42am