Want to hear your thoughts on this one.

I play mostly solo, I enjoy solo climbs particularly on WL and monk. During this season I've completed many many catas lvls 40-45-50-55 (sometimes had to quit because of sneaky shell and no one available to kill it or unexpected trap door) and the majority of maps that spawn as a reward have been... to put it mildly SHIT. Like 80% were tier I, not even useful adds on them, few tier IV, V also not anything crazy.

We had few events with better maps quality but in my experience the maps that spawn in high level dungeons were no different.

I understand that it's RNG, let's take regular items as an example. You drop many tier V from lvl 60+ mobs, sometimes even tier I normal from EP. Okay, but there's literally dozens or hundreds of items dropping during the map exploration but you onlu get 1 map after exploring the full cata. The higher lvl dungeon the bigger the map is, and the reward is... not comparable to the effort you have to put into exploring it without fail.

I think that at least the better quality event should be bumped to really drop higher lvl maps or bigger quantity even when solo exploring. What do you think? Anyone had similar experiences?

just think of it this way, when you're solo'ing at level 60, how many of the drops are tier 1 compared to tier 14?

It's the same with maps, the majority WILL be bad cos that's how the drop system works.


The only consistent way i've ever had of getting reasonably high level map drops was to group explore at 25+, when 3+ maps dropped i usually found at least 1 of them was of a reasonable tier, quite often half of them.

I hear you, but still I find like 20+ lvl 35-45 items (that I just put on MP as mutables) during this map explore but how many full catas exploring can you do daily? The ratio here is so low that it just makes it silly to try.

Yah I totally agree. Spending an hour or two in cata for nothing is really frusterating knowing the reward will be terrible. I like to play solo too and recently finished a cata at lvl 30 iirc and i got a t1 map with 3% stealth. I get it “just dont finish the catas” but I, and I think others here, have fun doing so.

The game progress as time go by is different for everyone until the nice drop comes.

For me few events like quality maps , were rewarding as more I explored.

I have agree with Bigheaded if you wish a guarantee higher lvl map try group explore for a chance to find something that would make you happy or combine group or solo each 2nd or 3rd day when available.

Think my opinion has to be that the game is challenging so people should learn what they love doing or try find good time ingame to invest meanwhile since the game is offering various activity ingame to be playing.

Drops usually appear when you dont expect them , thats how I try to see it .

I love Ladder Slasher

This post was edited by Sizzerb on Dec 20 2022 08:37am

I agree that especially since teleport traps and trapdoors can ruin hours of exploring current reward is way too low..

I think if map level was guaranteed to be a minimum for each size of catacomb:

open at lvl 1 - reward is minimum T1
open at lvl 5 - reward is minimum T2
...
open at lvl 55 - reward is minimum T12
open at lvl 70 - reward is minimum T14

it would be better, as you said soloing a map at lvl 55 is multiple hours of playing (atleast with gear like me)

and even most of these high level maps wouldn't have great stats so your reward would come only at the map final chest after exploring the map aswell

it would give more chance for new players to find useful maps and make fg, and well geared groups to buy maps and hunt better drops

All I ever do is solo and have done so for the past few years.
Overall the reward system in this game is not rewarding.
To follow up with the OP, it's shit. I strongly believe that's why the game has a current player base of 50 or less
Nobody wants to invest their time or even hard-earned money to get NOTHING in return.
I can't say I've ever experienced a dev team that just doesn't care, lives in denial, or keeps all functions of the game secret as if they are some kind of cabal.
Yet, here I remain playing, what the fuck is wrong with me... and the rest of us

Welcome to LS.

found 0 usefull maps this year,just remake catas when im on a bad spot

Most map drops will be useless, even if you're fortunate enough to see a high level map. It's not a rewarding endeavor