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Feb 1 2022 11:00am
I have a million questions, but hopefully, this lovely community can catch me up on some of the major bullets.
Point of clarification - I only have characters on HC

1.) The LS forum has seemed to die down just a touch since years ago, the trade forums aren't terribly active either, and the in-game marketplace is fairly bereft of quality gear/items - is HC LS worth getting into again as a point and click all day during zoom meetings?
- Did most of the good items just retire as people went AFK or are there a small grouping of people holding like 95% of the good stuff?
- Is the assumption that pretty much anything worth more than 100fg doesn't go in the marketplace before it goes to the trade forum correct?

2.) Does anyone actually play guardian anymore? It doesn't seem like it, so I guess my questions about heal mastery might be moot, but I'll ask anyway
- Heal Mastery mechanics? When using your EE heal charm (-25%) in the accessory slot and using a heal mastery charm in the primary charm slot - is that just a flat % gain or loss? If I used anything 26%+ in the main slot would it be a total net gain of EE to the accessory slot?
- If people aren't playing guardian - is there another specific class that actually uses heal mastery gear or do people primarily focus on intel and damage and just heal as a secondary?

3.) Magic Luck mechanics? Is there any more to it than just getting a bunch of magic luck and things are more magical? At what number do you actually see returns on + magic luck

4.) Potions - where do they come from? Just random drops?

5.) Lvl 90+ players? Is this just for fun to reach 100 or is there some real benefit to it?

6.) Is there much of a difference between elemental damage on charms? I seem to have an EE ice collection. Is it just a matter of damage scale? potential big hit vs good avg damage or is there more to it?

7.) Similar to the heal mastery question, but about intelligence - is there a certain intelligence threshold on a charm where it would make more sense to use your main EE damage charm on your acc slot. Like if you had a XIV Ice with 120 on your acc slot which would bring it down to essentially 90 EE - what amount of intel on your main charm would make up for that?

8.) Are there still future plans for LS or is it just business as usual, bug fixes occasionally, and new seasons after reset?

Also, feel free to drop any pearls of wisdom that you might think would be useful to someone returning after years. There's probably more, but that's all I can think of right now.
Also also, hi anyone that's still around that I used to talk to on here... and everyone else too I suppose. Thanks in advance for the tips/advice/answers.
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Feb 1 2022 11:06am
Quote (cardoors32 @ Feb 1 2022 12:00pm)
I have a million questions, but hopefully, this lovely community can catch me up on some of the major bullets.
Point of clarification - I only have characters on HC

1.) The LS forum has seemed to die down just a touch since years ago, the trade forums aren't terribly active either, and the in-game marketplace is fairly bereft of quality gear/items - is HC LS worth getting into again as a point and click all day during zoom meetings?
- Did most of the good items just retire as people went AFK or are there a small grouping of people holding like 95% of the good stuff?
- Is the assumption that pretty much anything worth more than 100fg doesn't go in the marketplace before it goes to the trade forum correct?

Sc is still more active. most items are afk or hoarded just not by me anymore
Yes, no good items are placed on mp unless a deal is already made

2.) Does anyone actually play guardian anymore? It doesn't seem like it, so I guess my questions about heal mastery might be moot, but I'll ask anyway
- Heal Mastery mechanics? When using your EE heal charm (-25%) in the accessory slot and using a heal mastery charm in the primary charm slot - is that just a flat % gain or loss? If I used anything 26%+ in the main slot would it be a total net gain of EE to the accessory slot?
- If people aren't playing guardian - is there another specific class that actually uses heal mastery gear or do people primarily focus on intel and damage and just heal as a secondary?

Lets just say guardians arent used by many now days, HM no good

3.) Magic Luck mechanics? Is there any more to it than just getting a bunch of magic luck and things are more magical? At what number do you actually see returns on + magic luck

Some see better rolls using ml, i use it but never find anything

4.) Potions - where do they come from? Just random drops?
random they rarely drop

5.) Lvl 90+ players? Is this just for fun to reach 100 or is there some real benefit to it?
you get extra GPs for 101 and sometimes bonus with events

6.) Is there much of a difference between elemental damage on charms? I seem to have an EE ice collection. Is it just a matter of damage scale? potential big hit vs good avg damage or is there more to it?
its all the same average

7.) Similar to the heal mastery question, but about intelligence - is there a certain intelligence threshold on a charm where it would make more sense to use your main EE damage charm on your acc slot. Like if you had a XIV Ice with 120 on your acc slot which would bring it down to essentially 90 EE - what amount of intel on your main charm would make up for that?
dont put int in acc unless off casting

8.) Are there still future plans for LS or is it just business as usual, bug fixes occasionally, and new seasons after reset?
who knows, its been updated to work on mobile now

Also, feel free to drop any pearls of wisdom that you might think would be useful to someone returning after years. There's probably more, but that's all I can think of right now.
Also also, hi anyone that's still around that I used to talk to on here... and everyone else too I suppose. Thanks in advance for the tips/advice/answers.


Welcome back! msg in game or pm if you wanna play and chat
got anything good ft? :p
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Feb 1 2022 11:10am
welcome back, pm me if u have any good gear ft
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Feb 1 2022 11:53am
1. yes most trades for anything above 20fg value are completed through the forum, private message, or dis cord. Most gear has unfortunately been retired with non active accounts. there is some remaining within the active community, but hard to source (don't be surprised if you get messages from people asking to buy your gear :P )

2. I personally dont see many play guardian at all to be honest. i always viewed guardian as a main melee with heal capabilities until the heal mastery nerf.

3. magic luck... i personally have tried both avenues; with and without it not noticing much of any difference.. some rely on the belief that ML gives better drops.. for me i see it as just luck of the draw, possibly a better chance on getting a better item.

4.potions drop at random, very far and few between.

5. 90+ lvl chars.. since the nerf of the standard 1-71 for all classes ( now an additional +2 levels per class after feeder), its common to see some groups climb that high depending on who is in the group.

6. ee vs specific elemental: i believe that any specific elemental damage adds to the overall enhanced effect of the chosen charm.. say for example you have a tier 3 light with 54ee and you have +6 lightning mastery on it: it would essentially become a 60ee charm ( i believe)

7. im not too familiar with casting as of yet, but i do know there is a minus percentage to use the acc slot to cast from (ee being the only useable side on the charm when in the acc slot), as long as your main charm +int could surpass the negative percentage, i dont see why it couldnt work and or add more damage?

8. as far as i am aware its just business as usual. lol


welcome back, its great to see people returning with some gear. player base on hc has slightly increased the past few months. some have sold out and left hc in favor of sc, and some have done the opposite.

one BIG suggestion.. as you have 16 hc chars. DO NOT DELETE any of them!!! symantecs of that has changed to being limited to 8 sc/8 hc ..

hope to see you around :)
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Feb 1 2022 11:58am
Be weary of selling anything of value when you return. Your about to be overwhelmed with pms and peeps trying to get extreme discount.

Welcome back!

This post was edited by JakeTheDog on Feb 1 2022 11:58am
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Feb 1 2022 12:03pm
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Be weary of selling anything of value when you return. Your about to be overwhelmed with pms and peeps trying to get extreme discount.

Welcome back!


prime example.. this.. i woudl estimate this to be valued at over 10k fg.. keep this.. @cardoors32

Angelic nightshade padded robe
Level Req: 35
Physical Defense: 0 to 68
Magical Defense: 63 to 159

+165% Enhanced Effect
+19 Dexterity
+3 Magic Luck
+4 Mana Regen
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Feb 1 2022 12:08pm
Quote (Canadian_Born @ Feb 1 2022 01:03pm)
prime example.. this.. i woudl estimate this to be valued at over 10k fg.. keep this.. @cardoors32

Angelic nightshade padded robe
Level Req: 35
Physical Defense: 0 to 68
Magical Defense: 63 to 159

+165% Enhanced Effect
+19 Dexterity
+3 Magic Luck
+4 Mana Regen


idk about 10k but it would fit nice with my 45 :p
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Feb 1 2022 12:29pm
Quote (Canadian_Born @ Feb 1 2022 11:03am)
prime example.. this.. i woudl estimate this to be valued at over 10k fg.. keep this.. @cardoors32

Angelic nightshade padded robe
Level Req: 35
Physical Defense: 0 to 68
Magical Defense: 63 to 159

+165% Enhanced Effect
+19 Dexterity
+3 Magic Luck
+4 Mana Regen


Hahah - thanks for the heads up. Someone offered me 200fg via PM. Also, thanks for the summary.
Sorry for the bad news, but my gear isn't amazing. It's pretty average from back in the day. Enough to breeze through, but not maxed out high-level stuff
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Feb 1 2022 12:35pm
Quote (cardoors32 @ Feb 1 2022 01:29pm)
Hahah - thanks for the heads up. Someone offered me 200fg via PM. Also, thanks for the summary.
Sorry for the bad news, but my gear isn't amazing. It's pretty average from back in the day. Enough to breeze through, but not maxed out high-level stuff


i remember slashign with you quite a bit back in the day when i first started.. on your main at the time BLC.. geez.. going back to when the well was in town.. lol..

that padded is worth quite a bit, id offer 10k if i had it as a nice filler in my set ;)

if you need any gear to get started back up. dont be afraid to msg. essentially all my mules short of "hcAXES" and "hcDAGS" are ft mules. (not great gear but something to start back out if needed)
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Feb 1 2022 12:37pm
Quote (cardoors32 @ Feb 1 2022 10:29am)
Hahah - thanks for the heads up. Someone offered me 200fg via PM. Also, thanks for the summary.
Sorry for the bad news, but my gear isn't amazing. It's pretty average from back in the day. Enough to breeze through, but not maxed out high-level stuff


hahahaha holy shit who offered 200fg for that?
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