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Aug 18 2020 06:56am
To start off, I love Guardians with only 30 (str) and 10 (dex)

Basically @ lvl 42 I thought DPS would change using a level 30 Club (IX) vs a level 15 Battleaxe (TierVI) and to my surprise, I hit more 0's with the club consecutively that the battleaxe did more average damage. Basically, the club did MORE consecutive 0 hits (5+) combined to the battleaxe that did NOT hit a 0 damage;

Magical ebonwood club, Damage: 23 to 107, +12% Mana Syphon
Magical alloy battleaxe, Damage: 75 to 90, +1% Earth Mastery

Might change if the Battleaxe was a Warhammer, but with these results, what is better to use?
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Aug 18 2020 07:08am
Yes I have a theory on this
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Aug 18 2020 07:38am
Lvl 15 BA hits the same avrg dmg like a lvl 45 axe. So avrg is better in your BA but dmg output is better on your club.
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Aug 18 2020 07:38am
Yes I have a theory on this
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Aug 18 2020 07:40am
What were the actual results of average damage done? The club likely hit a lot more 0's due to the monster defense being better since it has a low starting range. But I'd still think it did more average damage. And it should have double the actions.
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Aug 18 2020 07:49am
Quote (Robbie21 @ Aug 19 2020 01:40am)
What were the actual results of average damage done? The club likely hit a lot more 0's due to the monster defense being better since it has a low starting range. But I'd still think it did more average damage. And it should have double the actions.


Thing is I have been taking more notice to this with a Bufcore character compared to my usual setup, Currently testing this now since I just found it @ 44;

Magical drywood club, Damage: 26 to 119, +3% Critical Flux (level 35);

Still hitting 0's around about 3 or more per monster in a wave excluding Evil Presence.

EDIT: well.. after trying to kill 3 normal mobs dealing 24-30 zero (0) hits out of 55-68 attacks (per monster) with the club... the level 15 battleaxe deals more avg damage... or to be precise... DPS

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 18 2020 08:09am
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Aug 18 2020 08:31am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 18 2020 09:49am)
Thing is I have been taking more notice to this with a Bufcore character compared to my usual setup, Currently testing this now since I just found it @ 44;

Magical drywood club, Damage: 26 to 119, +3% Critical Flux (level 35);

Still hitting 0's around about 3 or more per monster in a wave excluding Evil Presence.

EDIT: well.. after trying to kill 3 normal mobs dealing 24-30 zero (0) hits out of 55-68 attacks (per monster) with the club... the level 15 battleaxe deals more avg damage... or to be precise... DPS


Average damage isn't equal to DPS though if you are comparing heavy to regular.
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Aug 18 2020 09:36am
Quote (Robbie21 @ Aug 19 2020 02:31am)
Average damage isn't equal to DPS though if you are comparing heavy to regular.


So, from my own example of 24-30 zero damage per second using a level 35 Club out of 55-68 attacks per second and the damage displayed being 26-119 per second (DPS) with the Battleaxe killing at a 1.8 sec speed with a damage output of 75-90 without zero (0) damage is NOT giving an indication that the Battleaxe (Tier VI) is way better to use? Or are you thinking that mathematics are significantly superior in normal explanations compared to the coding to the game mechanics?

EDIT: to be simple minded to respond in kind... if a club deals 1-3 damage per second and the avg is 2 per second, a warhammer of the same tier will deal the same damage even if it is DBLE over a 2 sec period (this is not including the fact that a heavy weapon has a 1.8 second delay dealing double damage).

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 18 2020 09:41am
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Aug 18 2020 09:42am
I also have my own theory on what is going on here, but it is extremely complicated
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Aug 18 2020 09:55am
Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ Aug 18 2020 08:42am)
I also have my own theory on what is going on here, but it is extremely complicated



I guess I’m the only one here that doesn’t have a clue......or maybe I just don’t care.....I dunno. :bonk:
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