Quote (BWConformity @ Feb 28 2019 02:49pm)

Compiled Melee Crit Chance Stats To Date (28Feb2019)


Compiled Club Crit Chance:
128str 121dex 12cs - 21% (n=8)
79str 90dex 6cs - 15% (n=2)
79str 91dex 0cs - 10.5% (n=4)
119str 125dex 1cs - 10.3% (n=3)
119str 52dex 1cs - 5% (n=3)
98str 69dex 0cs - 4.5% (n=2)
221str 34dex 1cs - 4% (n=3)
98str 34dex 0cs - 1% (n=2)


Compiled Warhammer Crit Chance:
Nothing yet


Compiled Sword Crit Chance:
117str 83dex 13cs - 29.3% (n=3)
124str 76dex 13cs - 24% (n=3)
119str 125dex 0cs - 20% (n=2)
147str 53dex 13cs - 19% (n=3)
159str 41dex 13cs - 16% (n=3)
119str 52dex 0cs - 9.5% (n=2)
221str 34dex 0cs - 6.5% (n=2)


Compiled Longsword Crit Chance:
90str 34dex 5cs - 15.8% (n=4)
90str 34dex 8cs - 15.7% (n=3)
80str 40dex 2cs - 12% (n=3)
67str 53dex 0cs - 11.4% (n=5)
95str 53dex 0cs - 11.2% (n=10)
92str 53dex 0cs - 11.1% (n=14)
64str 41dex 1cs - 10% (n=3)
95str 32dex 0cs - 8% (n=12)
77str 32dex 0cs - 7.6% (n=8)
55str 32dex 0cs - 7.5% (n=2)
114str 32dex 0cs - 7.3% (n=25)
114str 32dex 0cs - 6.4% (n=5)
63str 13dex 0cs - 2.1% (n=19)


Compiled Axe Crit Chance:
70str 98dex 11cs - 20.5% (n=4)
70str 133dex 0cs - 18.25% (n=4)
133str 70dex 0cs - 17.75% (n=4)
70str 70dex 0cs - 14% (n=4)
95str 39dex 0cs - 7.7% (n=12)


Compiled Battleaxe Crit Chance:
132str 39dex 0cs - 14.3% (n=18)
90str 36dex 5cs - 13.7% (n=7)
55str 41dex 6cs - 13.3% (n=16)
114str 34dex 0cs - 12% (n=5)
102str 34dex 0cs - 11.3% (n=18)
77str 34dex 0cs - 9.8% (n=6)
95str 34dex 0cs - 9.3% (n=12)


Compiled Staff Crit Chance:
No data yet


Compiled Polearm Crit Chance:
55str 58dex 1cs - 11.3% (n=9)
55str 72dex 0cs - 11% (n=5)
55str 78dex 0cs - 10.4% (n=5)


Compiled Dagger Crit Chance:
45str 118dex 11cs - 13.2% (n=5)
103str 114dex 0cs - 9% (n=9)
45str 116dex 0cs - 3.9% (n=10)


Compiled Spear Crit Chance:
No data yet


Thank you to our testers!
izParagonzi (90% of all the test data!!!)
Jedimagi (Our only dagger tester so far!!)
Meridius (The most amount of crit strike at lvl 1!)

Quote (McDavid @ Feb 28 2019 04:14pm)

You.. had 12 cs?
Ofc you're gonna crit lol compare that to almost identical stats you posted with only 1cs and 10% crit rate

Quote (Bob888 @ Feb 28 2019 04:17pm)

221str 34dex 1cs - 4% (n=3)
98str 34dex 0cs - 1% (n=2)

When I said clubs don't crit I meant it. If you get 1 crit in 50 hits you're lucky. If you're playing barb and put all your points in str like you should and don't have any +crit you're not going to crit almost ever.
It's not 0% but it's damn close.

Obviously if you put dex into the ratio you'll crit more often but I've known that for ages. The problem is you lose half the damage on the club so critting doesn't even matter lol.

Quote (BWConformity @ Mar 1 2019 01:03am)

Have you ever used clubs lol? 10% crit rate is really a lot too...



So you just don't tell anyone or...? I mean like... I had no idea until I did these tests how big of a deal the dex was for club/sword crit, just like I didn't know that str was important for increasing dex crit... What else do you know? Can you tell us, so I can stop wasting my time? :rolleyes:

Quote (Bob888 @ 1 Mar 2019 19:39)

We know that axes have less scaling but more base criting. The more scaling the less criting. If you put points in the opposite of the scale you won't gain the base damage but you gain a slightly higher chance to crit. In your tests you can see that although it does increase your chance to crit it's absolutely not worth it unless it's a totally free extra side mod. The times you crit a lot were more because you were using crit gear not because of the dex with clubs. If you have to put half of your stat points into dex just to see a fraction more of crits it's simply ludicrous.

I have many suppositions about this game just like you but I like a part of the mystery too. Since there is no new content any time soon it's fun to explore in depth what each stat does from the existing content. I didn't test it as extensively as you but when I put on dual stat charms with clubs I noticed crits every once in a while which was kind of cool. There is no point of mentioning something when everyone on the forums ONLY wants to disprove you and deny what you have to say. If I say that retribution is better than powerstrike I'll get a wall of text from Izparagonzi saying why it's not.

Quote (Bob888 @ Mar 2 2019 07:39am)

If I say that retribution is better than powerstrike I'll get a wall of text from Izparagonzi saying why it's not.

Quote (McDavid @ Feb 28 2019 04:14pm)

You.. had 12 cs?
Ofc you're gonna crit lol compare that to almost identical stats you posted with only 1cs and 10% crit rate

Quote (Bob888 @ Feb 28 2019 04:17pm)

221str 34dex 1cs - 4% (n=3)
98str 34dex 0cs - 1% (n=2)

When I said clubs don't crit I meant it. If you get 1 crit in 50 hits you're lucky. If you're playing barb and put all your points in str like you should and don't have any +crit you're not going to crit almost ever.
It's not 0% but it's damn close.

Obviously if you put dex into the ratio you'll crit more often but I've known that for ages. The problem is you lose half the damage on the club so critting doesn't even matter lol.

Quote (Bob888 @ Mar 1 2019 08:39am)

We know that axes have less scaling but more base criting. The more scaling the less criting. If you put points in the opposite of the scale you won't gain the base damage but you gain a slightly higher chance to crit. In your tests you can see that although it does increase your chance to crit it's absolutely not worth it unless it's a totally free extra side mod. The times you crit a lot were more because you were using crit gear not because of the dex with clubs. If you have to put half of your stat points into dex just to see a fraction more of crits it's simply ludicrous.

I have many suppositions about this game just like you but I like a part of the mystery too. Since there is no new content any time soon it's fun to explore in depth what each stat does from the existing content. I didn't test it as extensively as you but when I put on dual stat charms with clubs I noticed crits every once in a while which was kind of cool. There is no point of mentioning something when everyone on the forums ONLY wants to disprove you and deny what you have to say. If I say that retribution is better than powerstrike I'll get a wall of text from Izparagonzi saying why it's not.

Quote (Meridius @ Mar 1 2019 09:07am)

+1 this